Posted by Peter Mashiter on January 31, 2019, 9:51 am Edited by board administrator February 1, 2019, 1:04 pm
Was speaking to people in the know regarding the need for ADAS recalibration the other day.
The reoccurring information I get relating to any suspension repair / replacement is they are quoting as saying that ADAS recalibration is required.
So scenario 1)
A Vehicle 2 months after MOT has developed a worn bottom ball joint & / or worn track rod end joint & / or broken coil spring. The customer is unaware of the fault(s) until the following MOT test. Say a garage performs the repairs correctly & to spec but does not perform a ADAS recalibration. Can someone tell me how the ADAS system can ever know?
Technically the vehicle has been put back safe & to its original state. So why is ADAS recalibration needed? It's back as it was & IS safer than it was.
O.K! Scenario 2)
Lets say a customer calls in for a puncture or damaged tyre. The tyre is replaced. Surly a deflated tyre has the same alteration of KPi / Camber / Caster & wheel alignment as a worn suspension joint or broken coil spring etc. etc. So when the tyre is re-inflated or replaced then surly ADAS recalibration falls under the same criteria.
So we cannot even change a tyre now???????
If ADAS is not dynamic in it's function then how in the hell can it possibly function under day to day use.
I would like some thoughts please as I smell something that's shovelled out of a stable!
Re: The ADAS debacle
Posted by Peter Warman on January 31, 2019, 12:30 pm, in reply to "The ADAS debacle"
I am with you on this one
There is a thread about this with some varying opinions
The ADAS system is calibrated on the production line via the sensor in the screen and usually in the grill. If the screen is replaced or the front of the vehicle is damaged then it has to be re-calibrated
If you are changing suspension parts (dealer or known quality brand) or replacing a tyre, then a front wheel alignment to the manufacturers tolerances should always be done. In my opinion this is acceptable
There are some points of view that is the wheel alignment is say 1 deg out then this would affect the ADAS system, I would agree
With the extremity poor conditions of the UK roads many vehicles everyday are suffering suspension damage or putting the wheel alignment out, but how many drivers rush to get the ADAS checked after going down a pot hole? not until 6 months later do they notice a NS tyre scrubbed out due to an earlier pot hole incident, so are they potentially putting other road users at risk?
So long as the wheel alignment is carried out professionaly and accurately to the manufacturers spec, then I do not see any real justification for an ADAS check
Selling ADAS equipment to the Independents is real tough sell, so a little project fear will help, will also help main dealer push up the price of a front wheel alignment, having told the customer an ADAS check is required
This is only my opinion. We need some statistics to show that accidents were caused by not having ADAS carried out after suspension or steering repairs. After an accident it will be impossible to check as the front sensor will probably have been destroyed and wheel alignment put out
PS With the likes of ECP and a few other factors selling braking, suspension or steering parts to the general public at trade prices, then fitting them themselves or via a mate from down the pub, is a tracking or ADAS check EVER going to be carried out? as these vehicles get older, who will bother because of the cost of an ADAS check
Re: The ADAS debacle #
Posted by Phil Dunmore on February 14, 2019, 7:19 pm, in reply to "The ADAS debacle #" Philip Dunmore
I wonder if there is a plural for a pair of wise and sceptical Peters.
Re: The ADAS debacle #
Posted by Neil Mellor on February 19, 2019, 8:59 am, in reply to "The ADAS debacle #" Neil Mellor
My neighbour with a 2016 BMW X5 wanted advice regarding a screen replacement as he had a slight crack
I advised him to contact the local dealer as insurance were paying
3 dealers fobbed him off with either non returned phone calls or directly saying they wouldn't take on the job
Autowindscreens carried out the job on his drive and recalibrated his camera with a scanner and road test after fitting