Just a hint Bung thru my experiences of long ago when I did my first two along with the Fresh Water Soft Shell Turtle Shells (We never ate no Dirt Turtles Ewwwww. ) Did both at the same time to save the Whitewash KOOL . ... But bury the tires halfway in the dirt and then Whitewash whats sticking out and don't do like I did and whitewash the whole Tire first Bummer. ...