Bung, I got 2 vines that make brown ones and 1 vine that makes black ones well they are really dark purple they are really good . Back in the old days when I was still drinking alchol, me and my wife would make several gallons of wine outta them blackernsand when we'd have a company get togather where I worked, I'd take a couple one half jugs and everbody would have a real good time. All of em what drank it said it was the best theyed ever drank.