on January 24, 2022, 8:22 pm, in reply to "FOI request reveals data of deaths from (ie: not with) covid"
It kills older people who often have another chronic illness. If that's a revelation to you 2 years in, I'm at a loss.
The excess mortality is the excess mortality whether in people with other diseases or not.
An FOI to count the death's of patients with no other co morbidity is just a new regurgitation of the same old with/from bullshit. 17000 deaths of people who are fit and well is 17000 people who would not have died if we hadn't completely mismanaged the pandemic. Does that number appear small to you? The other 125,000 people also would not have died but because they have other illness we can forget about them?
Nobody has lied to you about the severity of the disease. It kills 5 to ten times more people than the flu and is far more contagious. When all those older people with other illnesses get it they fill hospitals so that no usual care is available to anyone else - we had no elective surgery for 6 months. This is eye witness testimony.
The deaths of any cancer patients are immediately trivialised by the interpretation that a covid death is not actually a covid death worth worrying about unless the person was fully well. Therefore, the addenda from Sikora, who wants to sell the NHS, is especially nauseating. It's not possible to treat folks with cancer safely in a hospital when there are other patients with covid. It's not lockdowns that caused an excess cancer mortality but an inability to provide usual care.
There is also no doubt that the excess mortality from this disease would have been far higher, not only, but especially, in older people with comorbidity without vaccination.
In the last month I've still been seeing people from deprived and minority communities who are unvaccinated, in intensive care. Pregnant women in their 30s often have diabetes. No doubt we should worry about preventative medicine and redistributing wealth but that's whataboutery when trying to come up with solutions on how to manage a severe respiratory/vascular illness.