What I find really rather sad, to put it mildly, is that this interesting and extremely informative discussion/analysis, is impossible to imagine taking place anywhere near the mainstream media landscape. Never in the BBC or the Guardian, or anywhere else really. It's like wartime censorship has been imposed, without any debate at all and coverage of the conflict in Ukraine is massively anti-Russian and completely biased in favour of Ukrainian propaganda, regardless of objective reality and facts on the ground. For example ignoring Ukrainian atrocitiees and the strength of neo-Nazi militant nationalistwithin the military.

It's unthinkable that anyone would be allowed or given time and space to present the case that this conflict has very little to do with Ukraine, per se, but is probably/really about using Ukraine as a weapon/excuse, a pretext, to stop Germany/Europe from moving closer economically and politically, to Russia and China, thereby in the future, creating a hugely powerful economic area that would eventually dwarf the United States. So, that can't be allowed to happen and Washington is determined to stop this happening, by any means necessary, like starting a giant burning firewall in the middle of Europe, divinding and conquering.