on May 23, 2023, 3:55 pm, in reply to "John, a nice tribute that made me wonder why disagreements on the 'left' are often so bitter"
If you disagree with a right winger its unimportant to them because he/she is in charge or generally supports the elite establishment anyway and will prevail.
If your views become a nuisance there's no need to disagree: you will be smeared, sacked, imprisoned or taken out: that's the evil bit.
"Why is it that there is often so much difficulty in believing that people of goodwill and integrity can look at matters and come to a different conclusion about them to ours?"
Brings to mind that cartoon meme about the guy sitting up all night at the screen "...because someone is wrong on the internet"...
But there again on the other side you have the "cherished belief" where people often identify with their views so intensely that any criticism on a particular subject tends to be perceived as an attack on themselves personally.
No matter how rational the criticism may be its read on an emotional level and taken as a personal slight.
Of course there's an element of religion in the views we identify with: "believe/ think" Everyone wants to remain true to their narrative and no-one wants to become an apostate to their former selves.
As JK Galbraith famously put it:
" Faced with the choice between changing one’s mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.'
Its notable that the meat of the two disruptions: Medialens and Lifeboat both have been over the credibility of a proposed overarching conspiracy: 9/11 and Covid.
The reason the split came about with Medialens is that some of the more way-out views of individuals on the Message Board (As anyone can post anything its the Achilles heel of any public message board) were dishonestly being used to typify the views of the Medialens team itself: A classic technique of discrediting an opponent thrugh smear by association that goes all the way back to Whitaker & Baxters use of quotes from the mouths of the novel characters Upton Sinclair in his thirties run for Governor of California.
In the case of Lifeboat you cant really expect to make the same repeated conspiracy assertions on a message board when its administrator is not only a specialist in the area of contention but also a front-face worker in the field seeing every day that you are wrong in a very graphic and deadly way.
I missed Rhis on this site for his breadth rather than his occasional misjudgments. He had an eclectic thirst and passion for knowledge born from a love of the natural world that seemed unquenchable. He was an excellent writer with a unique style rarely seen and of course he was a memorable wordsmith with some unforgettable coinings. His term for the elite: GIC's "Gangsters In Charge" will remain one of my favourites as will "Permanent Bullshit Blizzard" for the unending ordure they try bury the truth under.
RIP Rhisiart you old warrior: shame they can't give you a boat burial.
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