" You talk to Ukrainians it’s like ‘What if the Russians use nuclear weapons?’, they’re like ‘We’ll keep fighting, we’ll win.’ You know it’s only the westerners that are like ‘Oh my god, I’m over here in California and what if the Russians use nuclear weapons?’ You know, it’s almost pathetic.”

Paul Massaro:an advisor to the US government’s Helsinki Commission...

-No wonder the US is in the mess its in if this thick turd is its "advisor".
Has Ukraine been granted magic immunity from nuclear explosions & ensuing radiation by the Gods? The answer is clearly no.
So what they will "win" is an irradiated wasteland...whats left of them that is. Okaay... but that doesn't matter. The Ukrainian Kamikaze Nazis he's discussed it with tell him they are up for a limited Nuclear war on "their patch" so its cool. To the last Ukrainian!

Hated Californians!: you have the right idea: if the shit hits the fan it's still blowing your way...and if if it does I would of course suggest you blame your government for hiring bampots like Masarro to "advise" them, but that will be somewhat irrelevant after the fact.

-There's a point where nuclear brinkmanship becomes nuclear brink. It seems with these clowns we've reached the grand "Suicide-Murderer" stage: Penn and Massaro have pretty much the same mindset as those demented individuals who believe their property rights extend to their own family and that they have a right to kill everybody before topping themselves. Similarly the Nazis they talk to think likewise about their fellow Ukrainians.

Of course there's a universal consensus that such people are insane: some would say evil and insane.

Reading the above I can think of a permanent residence for a couple of those "golden bullets" Penn suggested they melt down his Oscar to make: but do it on your own guys.