underplay genuine concern about very high rates of immigration, both legal and "illegal" or refugee.

1. In refugees the proportion of males over 18 vs women over 18 is 80%. This raises concerns as to how many are actually refugees and how many illegal male migrants looking for work. You would think in any refugee population that women would outnumber men.

2. the statistics of immigration, around 650,000 net immigration 2023. (1.2 million inward, 500,000 outward) Increase of dependents increase from 6% to 25% (student visa) 25% to 40% (work visa). and ..confirmed net increase of student visas of five years converting to long term visas. - figures not supplied.

3.West asians, (presumably Indian and Pakistani) and East Asians seem to make up about 80% of immigrants.

4) These number have never been as high -

5) the vote for Brexit was, IMO, as much to do about large-scale immigration as anything else. Yet immigration is now higher

6) Governments have promised to reduce immigration, they have not kept their promise

7) These "far-right wing" protests may or may not be far right - Are a lot racist? Indeed. But if you ask many, they'll say they just resent the rate of immigration and the change in their society and their concerns have been ignored. They are entitled to this view though not the racist component of it.

8) It's like the rise of anti-semitism, when you don't deal with major social and moral issues, you're asking for trouble. In one case Gaza, in another immigration and too rapid social change

9) a small majority (52%) of people in the whole UK population agree immigration is too high. This will naturally mean that in some areas that majority will be much higher still.

10) "The problem with the UK is not foreigners", sorry, that's a patently dishonest opinion. It may not be the problem for the liberal and comfortable left, or the the politicians who use large scale immigration as an artificial but unsustainable stimulus to the UK economy, but to a not insubstantial portion of the population, it obviously is, and that's part of the reason for the riots. They are those that feel deserted, forgotten, ignored, derided - we can act tough on them for a while, but if we continue to push another unwelcome agenda on them, this problem will fester and worsen

11)It's wrong and dangerous to start conflating Zionism and anti-Semitism with these particular riots. There may be links as described, but to those rioting they'll know nothing about it.

12) A start to cure much of this - two simple things,

A moratorium on most immigration for five years - that means students, dependents, anyone whose presence isn't vitally needed for the UK workforce. There is no way that the UK can know or calculate the worth or not of 3/4 million people arriving every year - we can't check on them, review them, police them.

Abandonment of austerity, and wealth taxes to release hundred of billions of pounds over the next few years for the re-investment in a productive renewable UK economy and get everyone including the protesters on the same side.

Whether we like it or not they are also British citizens, and we need to take note of what they are telling us. Yes, we need to discipline malefactors, but we cannot just throw them in prison and the do nothing else. And that seems to be the popular answer presently.