when he said (paraphrasing) "The only thing the British government did (re:Gaza genocide) was suspend a few arms licences" and Bastani tried to counter with "Well they did a few things". Kennard instantly pounced with "What else did they do?" and all he could muster was a since discarded vague gesture at Palestinian statehood and then he ummed and ahhhd to try and come up with more but couldn't so changed the subject.

Really informative interview, despite Bastani (who is mostly silent).