As far as Kirk goes...just don't get this "he was a born leader" shtick...and the other "he was a great debater".
He just had a good gob on him when humiliating graduated school kids...and was the one chosen by elite, shadowy groups to spread the diverive bigotry, racist, zionazi bullshit that they wanted him to.
Plenty of others about to take his place as soon as these things calm down a bit concerning his death and memory holed anti-Israel stance.