Thx for clarifying - funnily enough I kindof have gone on gardening leave - from gardening (well, market gardening) and back to regular gardening. Can't pretend I'm saving the world any more, but it allows time to smell the roses again. Those look like nice, old fashioned garden roses - hope they have a nice scent and aren't all flounce and no trousers, so to speak? Hawthorn not out yet up here, but we managed a Beltane fire and watched the moon come up, which was nice.

Thanks for the incantation, and good luck with the drain
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