Oh Fred, please,please. also ken, learn about Tu Quoque.. Archived Message
Posted by John Monro on March 24, 2019, 11:13 pm, in reply to "The most corrupt body in existaance today!"
This man is indeed a quack, a snake oil purveyor, a fraud, a shyster, a charlatan. He claims totally unproven benefits for a substance called GcMAF, for which he claims he can cure cancer, treat HIV and autism, a rag bag of ailments often featuring in quack medical treatments. Whilst for once there is some sort of biochemical action of this compound which MAY act as a macrophage activating factor which in turn MAY affect cancer cells, there is absolutely no evidence of any kind for which he can make any sort of claim about GcMAF in a clinical setting, still less make money from it. He knows as much about medicine as I know about computer science. And as for others posting here, the helicobacter story is irrelevant OK, the medical profession was slow to catch on to these finding. So what, what has that to do with GcMAF? Nothing, you're just tarring the medical profession in regard to a separate issue instead of dealing with the subject of the discussion or argument. Check on wiki. It's called the "Tu Quoque" fallacy, or "You too", an appeal to apparent hypocrisy Tu quoque "argument" follows the pattern:[2] Person A makes claim X. Person B asserts that A's actions or past claims are inconsistent with the truth of claim X. Therefore, X is false. It's a more subtle form of ad hominem. Sometime its is called "whataboutism", when there it is more a distraction from the argument than a charge of true hypocrisy. This is used all the time on these pages, and I'm getting a bit fed up with it! Please note, even the word hypocrisy is often misused. A true hypocrite is someone who actually believes one thing, but publicly states or acts as if he believes something different. Hypocrisy isn't necessarily behaviour that conflicts with a stated view. For instance, I'm not a hypocrite because I am very concerned about global warming, yet own and use a ICE car, that's just a normal human failure to live up to one's professed standards, and all of us do this most of the time. So I would be annoyed if arguing that global warming is an existential threat if someone to counter that argument by using my car to prove that I'm a hypocrite and obviously don't believe what I'm saying.
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Message Thread:
- The most corrupt body in existaance today! - fredjc March 23, 2019, 11:11 pm
- Recognise and counter... - fredjc March 23, 2019, 11:37 pm
- Sorry Fred this guy is a snake oil salesman who was caught producing a medicinal - dan March 24, 2019, 9:20 am
- Re: The most corrupt body in existaance today! - redadare March 24, 2019, 6:07 pm
- Oh Fred, please,please. also ken, learn about Tu Quoque.. - John Monro March 24, 2019, 11:13 pm
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