This is a rather good discussion with Stephen Cohen on Russia, Russigate, Putin and the disarray on the liberal side in the United States. For Cohen it's the Russians who represent rationality, consistancy and political realism, almost a 'scientific' approach to international realations. In contrast, those in power in Washington, represent the opposite. They are ideologues soaked in unrealistic dogmas, dangerous illusions, that are detached from reality. How one stops these people leading us the brink of nuclear war with Russia is his nightmare concern.