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    Re: are vaccines good or bad? Archived Message

    Posted by Jamie on April 12, 2019, 2:54 pm, in reply to "are vaccines good or bad?"

    My nephew was injected with the DPT and the next day developed eczema on his elbow. My sister agonised whether to give the next dose or not believing that the eczema could be a result of the first jab. Her concerns rubbished by all and sundry, she went ahead with the next dose. Within 48 hours my nephew was head to toe with eczema so bad, he looked like a burns victim. It appears that the first jab did indeed sensitise him, with the second then overwhelming his body. Steroid wraps worsened the condition and in the end Guy's sent her home saying there was nothing more they could do. It took one year for him to return to normal. Make of that what you will.

    Partly as a consequence and having done much research (certainly significantly more than those that unquestioningly vaccinate), my partner and I decided not to vaccinate our children. They were breastfed for the first three years of their lives, during which time they contracted chicken pox, but which was very mild in both. I did read an article once that maintained antibodies were falling in breastmilk, as a consequence, it said, of people not contracting childhood diseases. Combine that with poor breastfeeding rates and poor diet and, well, jab me up!

    For me, it's not so much that vaccines don't work, but that their efficacy isn't that great and that there are very serious risks to having them (my daughter had some contraindications) - and that is just those that are acknowledged. Also, the majority of childhood illnesses will not threaten a healthy organism. In America, it is impossible to sue a vaccine manufacturer and the Gov. has a vast compensation pot. Make of that what you will!

    Herd immunity is often bandied around, yet there is one thing I do not understand about it. For vaccines to work, it needs the entire 'herd' to be vaccinated. Fine, but it is nearly only ever children that are referenced as the 'herd'. What of the adults? When was the last time anybody here had a booster? Presumably, unless all adults are regularly boosted, there is no herd immunity, even if all children are vaccinated.

    The small pox vaccine is often touted as the great vaccine success (ignoring the fact that diseases do just sometimes come and go) and yet, in England, the worst outbreaks in the late 19th century were in vaccinated communities and so much so, that many cities stopped vaccinating, preferring to adopt disease management techniques and fared much better.

    When you look at the disease rates during the early to mid 20th century in Europe and America (which had, I think, a more extensive programme), you will see a similar fall-off in disease and mortality rates. It is argued that this was down to vaccination and yet, I would suggest that it could equally have been down to improved housing, improved sanitation and improved nutrition. Indeed, in Africa right now it has been reported that fantastic results are being achieved tackling measles by giving vitamin A supplements as it appears that the poorest outcomes are in those who are vitamin A deficient.

    Lastly, get the disease and generally you are immune for life (possibly, who knows, with some of that immunity being passed on to your children). Vaccinate, don't boost and you might well lay yourself open to the disease later in life when it could be significantly worse.

    Finally though, read up, look at your lifestyle and make your own mind up.

    With apologies to Dan...

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