Re: CaitlinJ on RMaddow's sudden lurch into defending Julian Assange. [Sic!] - Archived Message
Posted by dovetailjoint on May 26, 2019, 9:44 pm, in reply to "Re: CaitlinJ on RMaddow's sudden lurch into defending Julian Assange. [Sic!] -"
I buy it, because I know these kind of people. I've met them and talked to them and argued with them. In my opinion they aren't smart enough to be Machiavellian masters deception, unfortunately. They are true believers, not cynics, not masterful planers, not hypocrites; but something worse and more dangerous. People soaked to the core with partisan dogas and ideology, really rather primative people, who see this difference between 'good' and 'bad' and apply this to the world around them. They fit the 'facts' around what they believe to be 'true' already. Machiavelli, in contrast, doesn't really care that much about what's 'true' or not, what matters to him is what 'works', what's necessary as propaganda to pursue a given policy and set of goals, which is mostly about Power, using and keeping it in the service of stability. Machiavelli isn't really an 'idealist' like Maddow, rather he sees clearly how the world really, is. He's the ultimate realist. This means one can talk and negotiate with him about interests. Not so with Maddow, because she's a zealot with the fire of the Truth in her eyes.
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- CaitlinJ on RMaddow's sudden lurch into defending Julian Assange. [Sic!] - - Rhisiart Gwilym May 26, 2019, 1:18 pm
- Re: CaitlinJ on RMaddow's sudden lurch into defending Julian Assange. [Sic!] - - dovetailjoint May 26, 2019, 3:43 pm
- Re: CaitlinJ on RMaddow's sudden lurch into defending Julian Assange. [Sic!] - - brooks May 26, 2019, 9:21 pm
- Re: CaitlinJ on RMaddow's sudden lurch into defending Julian Assange. [Sic!] - - dovetailjoint May 26, 2019, 9:44 pm
- well said B, fully agree (nm) - Ian M May 27, 2019, 6:21 pm
- I so hope this is a good omen for Julian....hope he gets wind of it....power to him!(nm) - Ed May 26, 2019, 9:40 pm
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