Re: You can almost hear the loud chorus of "bollocks" as this nonsense is announced, with yawns almost Archived Message
Posted by dovetailjoint on May 31, 2019, 7:23 pm, in reply to "You can almost hear the loud chorus of "bollocks" as this nonsense is announced, with yawns almost "
What's happening is that the definition of 'anti-semitism' is being widened and widened to cover a whole range of criticisms of the Israeli state and its actions. Either one simply adores Israel and is proud to be called a 'friend of Israel', or one is labelled an 'anti-semite', which is outrageous. It's as if one can't say that Israel has interests and pursues them just like other states do, that is, supporting their allies and attacking perceived enemies; because that implies a 'conspiracy' and it's therefore 'anti-semetic.' This of course, means that increasingly, telling the truth about Israel, as opposed to swallowing the Israeli state's propaganda, is termed 'anti-semetic.' But if one fights back and challenges Israeli and Jewish propaganga, one is seen as basically saying that Jews lie too in the service of their state and interests, and that view about Israel and some Jewish people, then becomes even more 'proof' that one is 'anti-semetic.! Corbyn isn't a strong leader and he's surrounded by a weak team and even more dedicated enemies. He doesn't have the will or the rhetorical abilities required to defend himself or others and he demoralises his supporters. His strategy, if there is one, of repeatedly 'rolling with the punches' doesn't work. I suppose it just shows how embattled he is and how little power he has, and he's disinclined to use what power he has, 'cause the media would tear him to pieces. If he was smart, strong and bold, he could turn this to his advantage, only this would require a far more aggressive and ofensive attitude, which he just doesn't have. He concedes way, way too much too often, and his obvious weakness only encourages his enemies to exploit his weaknesses even more. My guess is that vast swathes of the public don't gige a #### about Israel and Jews in the UK, only Corbyn won't reach out to them, the public and reject the agenda defined by a handful of media people in the urban centres, who are completely detached from the lives of ordinary people.
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Message Thread:
- Pete Willsman suspended from NEC, Corbyn out to lunch....again - Keith-264 May 31, 2019, 6:04 pm
- Saying "antisemitism is whipped up by the Israeli embassy" is antisemitism apparently. Anyone please - marknadim May 31, 2019, 6:18 pm
- You can almost hear the loud chorus of "bollocks" as this nonsense is announced, with yawns almost - Rhisiart Gwilym May 31, 2019, 6:36 pm
- IHRA definition is clear that Willsman's remarks are not Antisemitic ! - Iain May 31, 2019, 8:16 pm
- I wait for Corbyn to say that, loud and often....NOT!....nm - Keith-264 May 31, 2019, 8:40 pm
- Re: IHRA definition is clear that Willsman's remarks are not Antisemitic ! - dovetailjoint May 31, 2019, 8:44 pm
- Some more ammo against this idiocy, from OffG - - Rhisiart Gwilym May 31, 2019, 9:00 pm
- Not discussed on Galloway's talk show just now. - George Brennan May 31, 2019, 10:31 pm
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