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    Re: Vaping, useful substitute for smoking or yet another cynical..... Archived Message

    Posted by Sinister Burt on September 13, 2019, 11:01 am, in reply to "Vaping, useful substitute for smoking or yet another cynical....."

    As a smoker and vaper, i appreciate vaping as a way to reduce my risks by 95% compared to smoking - that's according to the NHS, and just common sense comparison of medically-safe propylene glycol vapour (like in the white and blue asthma pumps, or fog machines) with polyaromatic hydrocarbons and the like present in smoke. I still smoke, but vaping has cut my consmuption by about two thirds, and i can feel the effect on my breathing and sense of smell.

    As far as i remember, the recent stories about vaping related deaths were actually about an additive put in certain cheap cannabis vape products in the us (i think it was maybe vitamin e?), and has not been linked to vaping per se. The cases of 'popcorn lung' and other lung damage seem to be associated with vapers who use extreme heats when vaping (most people use much lower settings). Normal vaping might cause problems, but it is unarguable that it's a vast improvement on smoke.

    The modern use originally came from china and so the big tobacco companies couldn't immediately cash in - they've now cut in on the market with certain big brands like juul, but these firms don't appeal to me or people i know - i prefer the cottage industry vape shops which can still be found. I'm against big corporations getting in on it (whether tobacco or pharma/NRT companies) obviously, but don't take my vape away - they must already have reduced the hospital admissions for lung problems a huge amount in the amount of smoke they've replaced.

    I don't know if it's still happening, but i heard the law is being changed in the EU to make vaping 'safer', which seems to mean introducing million pound licenses so only big corporations can afford to stay in the market and all those cottage producers who grew up in the wake of the chinese introduction could be subsumed.

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