I see continual argument, and - apart from the frontline medics - nothing of which I can be Archived Message Posted by Rhisiart Gwilym on April 23, 2020, 3:53 pm, in reply to "It's easy rhetoric because if you accept Socrates there is no certainty." reasonably confident. I tend to listen to your reports, dan, and assert them to others in discussion - usually drawing a lot of chimp-screeching from those who've bought the 'no-epidemic, it's all being faked up for a power-grab' narrative. That's happening, I'm reasonably confident, but I also place even more confidence on the medics' first-hand reports. I still think we - everybody! - don't know the precise shape of this crisis. To know that is especially difficult for those of us - the majority - who sit at home and get continual - often clashing or uncoordinated - 'news' feeds. Note that when I say 'wait-and-see' I always add 'and meanwhile try anything pragmatically which might help, including curfews and quarantines, because it's pretty clear that there really is a bad disease-wave going about'. I also insist everywhere I post that we should listen to those actually reporting from their work in the hospitals, especially in London, which seems to be particularly badly hit. In all the welter of screeching, those witnesses seem to be the most substantial, and the least hysterical. I'm listening to several. Do you see anything to disagree with there, dan? Sorry if it upsets you, but I can't think of a better posture to take, until things get clearer. Meantime, power to your recovery, ASAP! Message Thread: Saker - like me - also thinks that NO-ONE has any certain idea of what's going on with the virus - - Rhisiart Gwilym April 23, 2020, 7:45 am Re: Saker - like me - also thinks that NO-ONE has any certain idea of what's going on with the virus - - flash April 23, 2020, 8:26 am It's easy rhetoric because if you accept Socrates there is no certainty. - dan April 23, 2020, 8:50 am I see continual argument, and - apart from the frontline medics - nothing of which I can be - Rhisiart Gwilym April 23, 2020, 3:53 pm No I think that's reasonable - dan April 23, 2020, 4:36 pm Re: No I think that's reasonable - walter April 23, 2020, 6:28 pm Re: I see continual argument, and - apart from the frontline medics - nothing of which I can be - Willem April 24, 2020, 1:26 am   Searching