You can't understand what you yourself are saying, S? That getting a clear grasp of what's really Archived Message Posted by Rhisiart Gwilym on May 10, 2020, 5:45 pm, in reply to "What and see what? Cover your eyes and play loud music?" going on in a particular line of research is - as actual coal-face, working experimental scientists often point out - an often baffling, confusing process where no clear patterns can be teased out enough to have even a tentative theory about what gives. A frequent situation in realworld scientific research. That's roughly what your post describes - quite rightly. In a situation like that, you go on probing, and meanwhile - wait and see. Derwyddon, btw, don't generally use the classic scientific method, since they concentrate on the other major source of information available to the human mind, one much neglected and still even derided in our current Western culture, to our very considerable loss: the intuitive, rather than the intellectual, mode of enquiry. To learn from one veteran scientist who's integrated both the intellectual and the intuitive modes of knowledge (without allowing the intuitive method to descend into habitual wishful thinking, with no more substance than that) study the life and work of Thomas W Campbell, and the extraordinarily-productive and liberating theoretical structure which he's derived from using both modes even-handedly. A remarkable achievement, which science-historians of the future, I suspect, will point up as being as epoch-changing as were the ideas of Galileo, Copernicus, Kepler, and the rest of the wave of innovative thinkers of their time. Another paradigm-shift in the making now, as then. Hwyl fawr i ti, fy mrawd derwydd ifanc! Message Thread: XMRV .. - Shyaku May 10, 2020, 12:11 am Seems a perfect vindication of my 'wait-and-see' mantra, Shy! :) NOM - Rhisiart Gwilym May 10, 2020, 9:12 am What and see what? Cover your eyes and play loud music? - Shyaku May 10, 2020, 9:43 am You can't understand what you yourself are saying, S? That getting a clear grasp of what's really - Rhisiart Gwilym May 10, 2020, 5:45 pm You seem to be very rarefied in the art of obfuscation .. - Shyaku May 11, 2020, 1:42 am Re: XMRV .. - walter May 11, 2020, 2:24 pm   Searching