"no known plausible biophysical mechanism"? Er, melatonin reduction, DNA damage, oxidative stress? 📂 Archived Message
Posted by walter on May 22, 2020, 5:42 pm, in reply to "For clarity, the SA article was an opinion piece by Moskowitz himself"
Grimes finishes with a whopper or two: "The reality is that for RFR, there is no known plausible biophysical mechanism of action for harm, nor does the combined weight of epidemiological data support this conjecture. For all of Moskowitz’s insistence, his position is most certainly a fringe view, wholly at odds with the stance of the WHO and numerous other public health bodies worldwide. His assertion the technology “could” be dangerous and implied insistence that others prove it safe is a complete inversion of the scientific method; the onus is on those making an assertion to provide reputable evidence for it, not on others to prove it wrong. The burden of proof always lies with those making a claim, and it is rather telling that the individuals engaging in the most scaremongering cannot justify their contentions with strong evidence." Some well-known, hugely evidenced (therefore plausible) effects/mechanisms of mobile health harm below. Melatonin reduction Effect of Mobile Usage on Serum Melatonin Levels Among Medical Students (2014) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26215007 Melatonin Metabolite Excretion Among Cellular Telephone Users " Exposure-related reductions in 6-OHMS excretion...," https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12456290/ DNA damage Mobile Phone Radiation Induces Mode-Dependent DNA Damage in a Mouse Spermatocyte-Derived Cell Line: A Protective Role of Melatonin https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23952262 Effect of Electromagnetic Field Exposure on the Transcription of Repetitive DNA Elements in Human Cells "RF-EMF exposure can significantly affect RE-DNA transcription" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31542968 Plus innumerable like this on the role of melatonin: Melatonin protected mice from mobile-induced DNA damage: Mobile Phone Radiation Induces Mode-Dependent DNA Damage in a Mouse Spermatocyte-Derived Cell Line: A Protective Role of Melatonin https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23952262 Mobiles cause oxidative stress Hundreds of those, here is one: 2 hrs a day reduced melatonin levels in rats brains, and promoted oxidative stress: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22047460 Go into Pubmed (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/) and search "Mobiles oxidative stress". You can do this from any Pubmed study already linked These three processes above are three interconnected 'mechanisms' of harm. His claim that "there is no known plausible biophysical mechanism" for harm is a false one. This is kind of breathtaking, reversing the onus of proof: "His assertion the technology “could” be dangerous and implied insistence that others prove it safe is a complete inversion of the scientific method" He is the one doing the inversion. Clear risks from mobiles have been established. Such obfuscation is what permitted smoking harm to be suppressed even thought the effects were known and demonstrable.
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- Even Scientific American admits that 5G could devastate public health - rippon May 20, 2020, 9:09 am
- Good article. Thanks. And, even better, nothing about Sars-2! - Der May 20, 2020, 10:12 am
- I am just watching the 5G debate on utube - Adamski May 20, 2020, 10:20 am
- For clarity, the SA article was an opinion piece by Moskowitz himself - Matt May 21, 2020, 7:30 am
- Re: For clarity, the SA article was an opinion piece by Moskowitz himself - walter May 21, 2020, 11:21 pm
- The rest of the introduction - walter May 22, 2020, 12:04 am
- To the detail we go - walter May 22, 2020, 2:42 am
- Thanks for the comments / analysis all nt - Matt May 22, 2020, 11:52 am
- More on that Interphone study - walter May 22, 2020, 12:38 pm
- And that Danish study - walter May 22, 2020, 1:44 pm
- The next thing he links to, radar safety, is nonexistent - walter May 22, 2020, 2:09 pm
- "no known plausible biophysical mechanism"? Er, melatonin reduction, DNA damage, oxidative stress? - walter May 22, 2020, 5:42 pm
- In summary: this response to Moskowits is nothing but bluster and misllading spin; no substance (nm) - walter May 22, 2020, 5:44 pm
- Thanks Matt. Rippon - no comment to - Adamski May 21, 2020, 9:38 pm
- Rippon - what do you say to my mate who reckons - Adamski May 22, 2020, 9:21 am
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