Highly local quantum phenomena (he gives two examples) are well established Archived Message Posted by Shyaku on August 24, 2020, 5:10 pm, in reply to "OT: How Quantum Biology Might Explain Life’s Biggest Questions" ..in biochemistry. He gives two examples, quantum tunneling in enzymes/hydrogen bonding, and quantum coherence in photosynthesis. These are both very highly local phenomena where enzymes have to handle subatomic particles (electrons and photons). And where the microenvironment within the enzyme molecule is isolated from the surrounding solvent, as within a cage (water molecules are highly ordered locally, for example, within an enzyme catalytic center). The only people who love quantum phenomena more than physicists are biochemists, and these are two well known examples, from biochemists (not from physicists) dating back decades. Even the video is now 5 years old and he says at the end "In the next 10 yrs there will be a transformation". Well, ahem, we are now 5 years in .. :-) still waiting. But yes, in the instances where larger proteins handle subatomic particles such as electrons and photons, and can "cage" the local environment, it is well established that tunneling and coherence can occur. In fact it is inevitable, surely. Biochemists love the idea of something mysterious that they stumbled on that may enlighten their colleagues (biochemists married to physicists is not an uncommon phenomomenon). Conversely, physicists love biology because it has higher levels of research funding. This is the honest reason. They may think they are bringing something to biochemistry, but they are not really :-) Scavenging for research funds - sure. - Shyaku Message Thread: OT: How Quantum Biology Might Explain Life’s Biggest Questions - Tomski August 24, 2020, 3:16 pm What is astonishing is that quantum effects are not subsumed by the noisy, macro environment of the - sashimi August 24, 2020, 3:36 pm Especially since the surrounding atoms take 'measurement' leading to decoherence : ) ... - Tomski August 24, 2020, 4:23 pm Its true, - Shyaku August 24, 2020, 5:14 pm Re: Its true, - Ken Waldron August 24, 2020, 7:43 pm Re: Its true, - Shyaku August 25, 2020, 12:07 am Re: Its true, - Ken Waldron August 25, 2020, 3:45 am Re: Its true, - Gerard August 25, 2020, 12:44 pm Highly local quantum phenomena (he gives two examples) are well established - Shyaku August 24, 2020, 5:10 pm Re: Highly local quantum phenomena (he gives two examples) are well established - Gerard August 24, 2020, 6:30 pm P.S "Spooky" nm - Gerard August 24, 2020, 6:40 pm   Searching