Since Vidal popped his clogs the situation has worsened. Although he could describe the corruption, he was far too close to the elite methinks. Meanwhile, I am not that surprised that Chimbo is advocating the gradualist approach, he has been doing it for yonks. To me it looks like the race to the bottom in these times. If the Dems loose it may radicalise the party, but I am not holding my breath.