Re: Joy! Owen Jones is writing a book about Corbynism Archived Message
Posted by Ian M on September 20, 2020, 11:38 am, in reply to "Re: Joy! Owen Jones is writing a book about Corbynism"
Searches of Jones' twitter account for pilger turns up this lone tweet from 2016 in which he links to a blogpost complaining that JP took a line he wrote about Obama being 'cool' was taken out of context: https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/758700225187971073 In the article he whines in the same way as Monbiot (when launching his various hit-pieces on Chomsky) or Jon Snow ('Chomsky fan numero uno') about how much he used to respect Pilger: 'As a young person with almost a desperate thirst for an alternative to the status quo, John Pilger was an inspiration. I had many of his books; I read his articles and watched his documentaries almost religiously. Here was an example of a journalist who stood up to injustice and the powerful, and courageously so. These days, it’s fair to say that I’m more of a fan of the earlier John Pilger than his current incarnation.' - https://medium.com/@OwenJones84/john-pilger-and-taking-quotes-out-of-context-95295098cd14#.27w2hm61u Funny then that he has never appeared to even quote the man or link to his work! Could it be that Pilger is viewed as beyond the pale in graun towers? Likewise with Chomsky, all the search results seem to turn up examples where Jones is saying he's a big fan but Chomsky is wrong about free speech or a/s in labour, or defending his stance of supporting dem candidates in US elections (wow, how radical...) - https://twitter.com/search?q=chomsky%20(from%3AOwenJones84)&src=typed_query&f=live There seems to be a spat emerging after Aaron Mate called him out following ML's tweet about the above article: https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1307245814641758208 Aaron Maté @aaronjmate · Sep 18 What @OwenJones84 is doing is erroneous, opportunistic, & damaging. Labour’s own reports show how anti-Semitism smears were weaponized by centrist members whose open aim was to destroy Corbyn’s movement. Listen to Chomsky (who never sells out his cause for mainstream approval): Quote Tweet Media Lens @medialens · Sep 18 Owen Jones, blaming the victims of a truly monstrous smear campaign: 'Those who insisted the antisemitism crisis was a smear campaign and nothing else... not only caused pain to Jewish people but also helped strip away Corbynism’s idealistic sheen.' https://dumptheguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/17/honest-conversation-corbyn-labour-events Owen Jones @OwenJones84 Replying to @aaronjmate I hugely respect Noam Chomsky but don't agree with him on everything, and neither do you. The authors of the famous leaked Labour report have the exact same position as me. These are screenshots from the report. Chris Williamson was suspended by the then ruling Labour left. Image Image Sep 19 Replying to @OwenJones84 and @aaronjmate The correct position on the antisemitism crisis is that antisemitism is a genuine problem and there were failures to deal with it - as the leaked Labour report goes to great lengths to emphasise - and the episode was cynically used by Corbynism's opponents, too. Owen Jones Rose @OwenJones84 · Sep 19 Taking antisemitism seriously has absolutely nothing to do with seeking mainstream approval, and your own position is driven by a straightforward refusal to engage with the facts. Have you even read the leaked Labour report? eugenio @eugenioestoico · Sep 19 And now youre telling a Jewish person he is not taking AS seriously? Owen Jones @OwenJones84 · Sep 19 no, I'm defending myself from the accusation that my position is determined by seeking "mainstream approval", which it isn't The nerve of this guy, presuming to lecture about the 'correct' position on the a/s witch hunt! Mate's got his number at least... Some good replies in the comments, the best one 'contained sensitive material': Listen, Fat @UHadMeAtYOLO Sep 19 whether you're a disingenuous prick or just a mark, you should get the #### out of the party and out of politics; these are bullshit rightwing ploys, and somehow you always play along - https://twitter.com/UHadMeAtYOLO/status/1307246989625700352 Got to stop there, putting myself in a bad mood... I
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Message Thread:
- Joy! Owen Jones is writing a book about Corbynism - Ian M September 18, 2020, 1:59 pm
- Should be titled: Jeremy Corbyn: My Part in His Downfall. NM - johnlilburne September 18, 2020, 2:54 pm
- Re: Joy! Owen Jones is writing a book about Corbynism - Raskolnikov September 18, 2020, 3:21 pm
- Re: Joy! Owen Jones is writing a book about Corbynism - brooks September 18, 2020, 6:33 pm
- Great minds, etc... - Mark Doran September 18, 2020, 6:34 pm
- Learn lessons from it - Earn lessons from it. He's the young vicar ones nm - Focus September 18, 2020, 9:53 pm
- Re: Joy! Owen Jones is writing a book about Corbynism - Raskolnikov September 19, 2020, 7:27 pm
- could this be Corbyn's final humiliation or will that be his apology to Jones?....nm - Keith-264 September 20, 2020, 11:12 pm
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