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    Apologies for my former shortness, does this edit make my position Archived Message

    Posted by Gerard on January 20, 2021, 3:23 pm, in reply to "Re: Bridges over troubled waters?"

    any clearer? Quote; "At CERN "sigma" is applied thus, quote: "In short, five-sigma corresponds to a p-value, or probability, of 3x10-7, or about 1 in 3.5 million. This is not the probability that the Higgs boson does or doesn't exist; rather, it is the probability that if* the particle does not exist, the data that CERN scientists collected in Geneva, Switzerland, would be at least as extreme as what they observed. "The reason that it's so annoying is that people want to hear declarative statements, like 'The probability that there's a Higgs is 99.9 percent,' but the real statement has an 'if'* in there. There's a conditional. There's no way to remove the conditional," says Kyle Cranmer, a physicist at New York University and member of the ATLAS team, one of the two groups that announced the new particle results in Geneva on July 4.
    Scientists use p-values to test the likelihood of hypotheses. In an experiment comparing some phenomenon A to phenomenon B, researchers construct two hypotheses: that "A and B are not correlated," which is known as the null hypothesis, and that “A and B are correlated,” which is known as the research hypothesis." Go to: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/five-sigmawhats-that/ for full article. Some might observe that such conditionality stands statistical analysis on its head because it pertains to a continuum the only thing that can be known about is its Khaotic nature (and therefore does not represent a "data set" of any kind), epidemiology is limited in its applications for a very good reason for one must first determine and define the demographic/s one is studying, however, when one is attempting to study the fundamental creative principle of the universe all variables must be accounted for and the continuum of "Space Time" is subject to Khaos (sensitive to initial conditions), therefore, extrapolating conclusions concerning this "God Particle's" existence from deliberately standardised data achieves precisely nothing and to claim it does or ever will is very bad (and dangerous), science. That the use of huge amounts of energy might achieve a result is not the same thing, however, one might expect to achieve precisely the opposite result to the one you wish for (and in this case as one is attempting to find the, "cosmic holy grail" of the creative principle such would clearly be catastrophic), certainly the related issues of the energies required to produce and contain both fusion reactions and dark-matter suggest that there is something fundamentally wrong with both the science and the theory of particle physics. It's not called "particle-beam" research for nothing either as it eschews the quantum physical reality of light as both particle and wave." https://www.arafel.co.uk/2018/03/the-whole-story-epidemiology.html

    Quantum does apply..you can't affect one thing without affecting everything else...

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