Re: I accept and believe Jimmy's explanation 📂 Archived Message Posted by Ian M on November 11, 2021, 10:44 pm, in reply to "I accept and believe Jimmy's explanation" Thanks all, some comments... Spike said: 'While the pandemic was at its height Dore made a point,at the end of his videos, to promote his content for free, rather than ask for people to subscribe for money' - good point, had forgotten about that, don't recall other youtubers making the same consideration. I was also unaware that there was merch for sale until I went to his website. If it's all a big grift, he doesn't seem to be very good at it! psingh said: 'it's just endless anti vaxx nonsense [...] As much as anything this stuff is really boring, it like listening to the loonie on the bus' - any examples you'd like to share? Don't remember a headache in California or Florida being mentioned, maybe you meant the tinnitus thing? You are of course free to find it boring & not worth your time, doesn't make him wrong though... Sinister Burt said: 'I don't go along with the claims you mention ie the vaccine doesn't offer full protection so don't bother no-one said it does, but it reduces the chances of transmission, hospitalisation and death [...] Or the only do old/vulnerable but - this is the discredited and financially suspect GBD position' - on point 1 I don't think that's Dore's stance though, he accepts the claim of reduced hospitalisation & death for the individual (esp in vulnerable categories) but not the transmission part. Think he cites a study in the above vid for that claim of transmission being roughly equal for vaxxed vs unvaxxed, might go look for it... On point 2 I thought GBD was mainly about lockdowns? Don't think Dore has talked about those measures specifically, other than recently noting (with approval) some EU countries and Florida opening back up to biz as usual. He was angry not at the lockdowns themselves but the fact that the US govt didn't furlough workers after forcing them to leave their jobs. Raskolnikov said: 'Even the part where he actually addressed "the producer's" errors didn't seem to really come to terms with what a dishonest impression that segment gave but rather it "changed the meaning" of the paragraph.' - yes, it didn't really get into the crux of Shaun's argument that the spike in cases was due to relaxing of lockdown not 'despite' those measures. Jimmy skated over the surface of that rather than giving his audience the full picture (which he could also have done by playing extracts from the video & responding directly rather than anonymising it with 'it was brought to my attention'). A certain amount of face-saving going on methinks! Keith said: 'I particularly enjoy his phone conversations with Dead bloke Biden' - agreed, nearly as good as the 'stoned Chomsky' ones cheers folks, I Message Thread: | This response ↓ Jimmy blames his producer - Ian M November 10, 2021, 10:08 pm Re: Jimmy blames his producer - spike November 11, 2021, 12:34 am Re: Jimmy blames his producer - psingh November 11, 2021, 3:14 am Claiming Dore is 'anti-vax' is nonsense. - Fionn November 11, 2021, 8:56 am Re: Claiming Dore is 'anti-vax' is nonsense. - Keith-264 November 11, 2021, 9:04 am Re: Claiming Dore is 'anti-vax' is nonsense. - psingh November 11, 2021, 9:15 am Re: Jimmy blames his producer - Sinister Burt November 11, 2021, 6:44 am Re: Jimmy blames his producer - psingh November 11, 2021, 9:10 am Re: Jimmy blames his producer - Sinister Burt November 11, 2021, 9:16 am Re: Jimmy blames his producer - psingh November 11, 2021, 3:00 pm Re: Jimmy blames his producer - Sinister Burt November 11, 2021, 4:21 pm Re: Jimmy blames his producer - Keith-264 November 11, 2021, 4:26 pm Re: Jimmy blames his producer - Sinister Burt November 11, 2021, 4:39 pm My city is named after him, Hull that is, not Emu....nm - Keith-264 November 11, 2021, 5:08 pm Re: Jimmy blames his producer - Raskolnikov November 11, 2021, 4:59 pm Re: Jimmy blames his producer - Shyaku November 15, 2021, 7:27 am Re: Jimmy blames his producer - Raskolnikov November 11, 2021, 8:47 am Re: Jimmy blames his producer - Raskolnikov November 11, 2021, 8:48 am I accept and believe Jimmy's explanation - scrabb November 11, 2021, 4:42 pm Re: I accept and believe Jimmy's explanation - Ian M November 11, 2021, 10:44 pm Re: I accept and believe Jimmy's explanation - Sinister Burt November 12, 2021, 6:36 am Re: I accept and believe Jimmy's explanation - Ian M November 12, 2021, 10:30 pm Re: I accept and believe Jimmy's explanation - Sinister Burt November 13, 2021, 3:56 pm Re: I accept and believe Jimmy's explanation - Ian M November 13, 2021, 5:41 pm Re: I accept and believe Jimmy's explanation - Ken Waldron November 14, 2021, 12:01 am Re: I accept and believe Jimmy's explanation - Sinister Burt November 14, 2021, 10:13 am Re: I accept and believe Jimmy's explanation - Ian M November 14, 2021, 11:11 am Re: I accept and believe Jimmy's explanation - Sinister Burt November 14, 2021, 11:31 am Thanks both for navigating through the reports on transmission etc. - Tomski November 13, 2021, 4:08 pm Absolutely. Ditto! nm - Der November 13, 2021, 7:20 pm The thing about “follow the science” is .. - Shyaku November 15, 2021, 7:35 am (Its not really a soap opera). Nm - Shyaku November 15, 2021, 7:36 am Re: The thing about “follow the science” is .. - Sinister Burt November 15, 2021, 10:05 am That was not in real time either. - Shyaku November 21, 2021, 3:06 am Red queen - Shyaku November 15, 2021, 7:33 am Venus fly trap. - Shyaku November 15, 2021, 6:40 am « Index   Searching