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    Re: Daily Mail article 📂 Archived Message

    Posted by Ken Waldron on November 28, 2021, 4:54 pm, in reply to "Re: Daily Mail article"

    " And, despite the antogonism it is an actual relationship with the wild plants & animals, whereas before it was the usual (sub)-urban value of 'look but don't touch', ie: total separation. "

    Yes. That's a very good observation. That "total separation" approach is something I have always been opposed to. It manifests itself in different ways: such as delineating a specific area as a "nature reserve" given all protections, which consequently gives effective carte blanche to abuse the other 98% of the environment surrounding it but not unfortunately designated as "special".

    Likewise no one can ever know likewise much about the natural world unless you are interacting with it constantly. I have little sympathy for the "noli me tangere" approach typified by Vegans and other Jainists which might leave you morally "pure" but effectively is yet another means of separation.

    We are as much "nature" as all other forms of "nature". A Hunter generally know more about the animals they depend upon than any natural historian looking at them from the outside whist they additionally have a vested interest in their continued general well being.
    Hands-on plantsmen and farmers likewise generally understand a lot more about the natural world around them and how their own interventions to grow vegetable crops can effect the rest of the natural world: often in ways that effectively make hunting seem utterly benign, than the morally pure city Vegan righteously preaching his innocence.

    The deeper malaise of course is when people are alienated from their own living landscape in terms of ownership and with the ever increasing drift of our landscape and environment into becoming mere "real estate portfolio" in the "business world".

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