Re: GG...Oh my word....what is going wrong with George? - my perspective Archived Message
Posted by Tomski on July 25, 2022, 2:32 pm, in reply to "Re: GG...Oh my word....what is going wrong with George? "
I find arguments as debated here, clunky. Just to be clear, my starting point is that ‘we’ have a problem with global warming and environmental degradation due to man-made activities and second is that ‘we’ have to do something about it. From that perspective, GG is way out of line. The interesting part is that he is coming from the ‘social justice’ angle, which is understandable given his left political ‘bias’. Unfortunately, he seems to have fallen into the ‘climate change denial’ trap illustrated by him prattling on about ‘Snowball Earth’ and such – to justify his ‘social justice’ stance. Another silly justification was that he didn’t like Greta because she was frightening his children … gods preserve us. This is, of course, a joke, since Greta is firmly behind the nazis in Ukraine … only joshing. For me, this SMO in Ukraine has clarified my views on climate change. I was shocked to note how hydrocarbons are still essential for the humanity. When I say that, I include all 8 billion humans in that equation and not just the pampered west’s 20% (or whatever Rhis called it). As Putin said about Germany, the wind and solar ain’t gonna solve that equation in that part of the NATOstan. Otoh, I am quite happy for Germany and the rest of the NATO European puppets to de-industrialise, putting aside that most people suffering will be the working class. The solution to alleviating this is obvious from the working-class perspective. Break those chains or be enslaved. The USA shan’t be feeling the same pain as Europe for a period. Personally, I think their military industrial output will be running into a brick wall at some point since they are relying on fracking of oil and gas (O&G) and assuming they shan’t be invading any resource-rich countries. Big if : ). This US fracking resource is relatively finite in comparison to ‘normal’ O&G reservoirs in MENA, Russia, Venezuela and the rest. How long before they run out of this fracking resources? Not sure. Something worth exploring (pun unintended). All I know is that it is getting more expensive to extract, as we speak, and as said elsewhere, it is a Ponzi scheme. Now, putting aside the woes of the west’s ‘golden billion’ regarding hydrocarbons, let’s look at the other block, China, Russia, Africa and Latin America. If you look at China specifically, they are happily looking after their own population to achieve a ‘decent’ standard of living, expanding their Belt and Road to include other members of that block … all using Russia’s etc. hydrocarbons. Is that the right thing to do? In my view yes. The west’s industrial might, over many hundreds of years, has brought us to this point of global warming, without any benefits to these undeveloped nations. Secondly, I will trust this block to be much more rational about managing the climate change, which imv is accelerating. How will they do it? I’ll let the CCP debate it and come up with the best sustainable solution. I am sure they can influence the remainder 5 odd billion of their block. And if you don’t like this perspective, I have others : )) …
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- GG - Tomski July 24, 2022, 7:04 pm
- Not the biggest fan of GG these days, but he still knows how to turn a phrase.... a - Ed July 24, 2022, 7:33 pm
- Re: GG...Oh my word....what is going wrong with George? - Ed July 24, 2022, 9:13 pm
- Re: GG...Oh my word....what is going wrong with George? - Mark Doran July 25, 2022, 6:11 am
- Re: GG...Oh my word....what is going wrong with George? - johnlilburne July 25, 2022, 9:46 am
- Re: GG...Oh my word....what is going wrong with George? - my perspective - Tomski July 25, 2022, 2:32 pm
- Norma asked him about Thunberg at the end and he gave a good answer....nm - Keith-264 July 25, 2022, 4:21 pm
- Yes, I heard that. I can't recall the answer, it was obviously forgettable ... - Tomski July 25, 2022, 5:30 pm
- Congratulations....nm - Keith-264 July 25, 2022, 7:09 pm
- Ta - Tomski July 26, 2022, 1:22 am
- Re: Yes, I heard that. I can't recall the answer, it was obviously forgettable ... - Ed July 25, 2022, 8:10 pm
- Nice one T, hope it works out for you (nm) - Ian M July 26, 2022, 7:20 pm
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