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    Ray McGovern: How Far Will Russian Tanks Go Into Ukraine? Archived Message

    Posted by sashimi on January 19, 2023, 4:00 pm

    17 January 2023

    What follows is part of a recent 45-minute interview linked below:
    https://rumble.com/v25k40b-russia-might-go-west-ray-mcgovern-tpc-1054.html

    I don't think President Putin wants to occupy all, or even most, of
    Ukraine. That would be the kind of really stooooooped thing Cheney/Bush/Rumsfeld
    would try to do.

    But, if the U.S. really wants to avoid war with Russia, it must realize that,
    barring the use of nuclear weapons, Russia is not only determined to prevail but
    has the means to prevail.
    What has gone on in Ukraine over the last nine years
    poses an existential threat to Russia. It will not tolerate an existential
    threat.

    Putin is not paranoid. He has heard from U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin
    that:
    "One of the US's goals in Ukraine is to see a weakened Russia. ... The U.S. is
    ready to move heaven and earth to help Ukraine win the war against Russia."


    Russian military intelligence (like all military intelligence) must weigh
    CAPABILITIES, more than intentions. Can the U.S. achieve Austin's goal? No. Not
    without using nuclear weapons. President Biden says he doesn't want to do that,
    because that would mean WWIII.

    Thus, there is a gapingly large conceptual disconnect. Biden and his sophomore
    advisers do not seem to "get it", and this makes it exceptionally dangerous.

    Simply, the U.S. cannot have both: "win the war against Russia" AND avoid
    WWIII. This has been clear for many months. The fact that the sophomores don't
    "get it" puts the Russians on high alert - prepared for anything. How far west
    into Ukraine they will go, depends on some sanity and flexibility in Washington,
    of which there is not a plentiful supply.
    -- https://raymcgovern.com/2023/01/17/how-far-will-russian-tanks-go-into-ukraine/

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    • Ray McGovern: How Far Will Russian Tanks Go Into Ukraine? - sashimi January 19, 2023, 4:00 pm