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    Robert Scheer w/ Ray McGovern (Transcript + Video) Archived Message

    Posted by sashimi on February 26, 2023, 1:13 pm

    24 February 2023

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    After a year of war and carnage in Ukraine, the fighting continues, and there
    are no signs of it slowing down. In fact, military budgets have increased, the
    weapons shipments have multiplied and the number of countries involved has
    reached world war levels. In a time of conflicting narratives, misinformation
    and rampant propaganda, history proves to be one of the few sources of wisdom
    left to predict and caution what the future holds.

    In their primes, no one would have guessed Robert Scheer and Ray McGovern would
    end up on the same side of this issue. Scheer, the Ramparts journalist working
    to expose the CIA, and Ray McGovern, the man in the CIA, spoke on this special
    episode of Scheer Intelligence. Despite both coming from the Bronx but with
    polar opposite upbringings in a radical commie Jewish side of town versus a
    conservative Irish end, their long, experienced lives bring them back together
    in a true tale of America. They rewind the clocks to their days examining the
    Soviet Union and the original Cold War to how the US and Russia have evolved to
    end up, yet again, head to head.

    McGovern dives deep into U.S.-Russia relations and presents parallels between
    tense moments in history such as the Cuban missile crisis and what's happening
    in Ukraine now. John F. Kennedy imposes an illegal blockade on Cuba following
    the USSR's missile placement just miles off Florida's shores, a historically
    justified action. When looking at Putin's similar acts, McGovern asks, "Did you
    know about the U.S. promise from 30th December 2021 not to put offensive strike
    missiles in Ukraine? I dare say very few know. Why? Because it wasn't in The New
    York Times."

    McGovern also remembers speaking to a key member of the Gorbachev staff and
    asking why the agreement to deter NATO expansion past East Germany was not
    written down. McGovern states that they trusted them but, "There ain't no trust
    now," McGovern says.

    As for a reason why we're involved in so much conflict, McGovern puts it simply:
    "If we're a democracy, the American people need to know all this. They need to
    know that most of our Congress people are bought and sold. Most of the
    expenditures, $858 billion this year, not counting what we're giving to Ukraine,
    that's going into the pockets of these people [who] stood up and applauded Pope
    Francis for saying the main problem was the blood soaked arms trade. Nobody gets
    elected without filthy lucre. That's what our country has come to, and it's up
    to us."
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    -- Cont'd at https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/24/ray-mcgovern-the-last-chance-to-avoid-world-war-iii/

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