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60 Oli 11:32 Hey, Haaretz! Why you are so efficient at criticising IDF but you are avoiding to criticise Hamas? All these shooting were for crowd control that is posing threat. Hamas did the same, even much more. They were shooting directly at people, they were publicly executing people that were storming their distributions centres! Where were you then with your articles? Reply to comment did Hamas kill 60k ? 12:15 Oli or raze a 2mln city to dust ? destroy hospitals and universities? Haaretz is mainly journalism: ie. bring out reliable info, not agitprop. It's reported at length on Oct 7 and Hamas terror. It sounds like you wished it was every day Oct 7 and the whole planet would pity poor Israel. 59 Oli 10:58 It is manipulative article, warning fire is used by Police world wide! Reply to comment feel ashamed? guilty? 12:08 Oli need an excuse ? a what-about ? 58 Oli 10:35 Warning shoots and shooting directly at people is a difference, yes. Ordered to shoot at people and order to fire warning shoots is big difference. One is a war crime, other is normal response. But article is written in a such way that suggests the first interpretation. Why there are no direct questions to these soldiers, did they receive an order to shoot at people, not as a warning? You have gigantic crowd, with Hamas operatives mixed with civilians. 57 BJ 10:30 Etty Hillesum, a dutch Jewish woman who was murdered in Auschwitz wrote after being assaulted by a German soldier in the streets of Amsterdam that he must have been severly abused in his childhood to be capable of inflicting such pain on another human being. Well, the same holds true for Israeli soldiers that are shooting indiscriminately into crowds of helpless, unarmed, starved civilians. . Abused by dehumanising indoctrination and propaganda! Reply to comment thank you 12:04 BJ Etty left behind a stunning diary. One day they'll read it in Yeshivas. 56 Marks 09:55 Thank you Nir HassonYaniv KubovichBar Peleg for your courage us truth telling and your integrity. You are honor to journalism! 55 Miriam Hirschfeld 09:03 God help us when we will finally wake up what this does not only to Palestinians, but also to our "most moral army" and to "our Jewish heritage" Nir Hasson thank you and your colleagues for your courageous reporting 54 Thank you Nir Hasson,Yaniv Kubovich and Bar Peleg 08:30 This article deserves to be very widely read. With the world's media still in Israel after the Israel - Iran war, perhaps it will receive more attention. I do hope so. Perhaps those commenting here could share it with their countries' media outlets? 53 ConnieCA 08:19 "This isn't about a few people being killed – we're talking about dozens of casualties every day." Justice and punishment for such "field executions" of Palestinians may seem absent now, but tracking down individual perpetrators under international law will continue for decades into the future and "Following orders" is not a legal defense in court. 52 M. D. Block 07:47 Haaretz is the voice of sanity in Israel - the only moral voice! Americans aren't just venting righteous anger that our looted tax dollars are financing 2,000 lb. pound dropped on Palestinian children. We are traumatized! The wanton savagery by uncivilized people is unacceptable by a civilized society! Stop the carnage, the Gaza Genocide now! America's complicity in such cruelty, such barbarism by IDF Terrorists, guided by the ultimate terrorists, Prime Monster Netanyahu, Genocide Joe and the Feral Orange Menace is unAmerican, unacceptable and obscene! 51 ruth 07:13 i remember after ww2 people asking ......how did German people turn on friends and neighbours they had known all their lives, knowing what was going on even if just a little bit at first.....well folks the most moral army in the world is now shooting people they dont even know in the back...i guess in a couple of decades the same question will be asked... 50 Joelle 05:41 Thank you Haaretz. You are a beacon of light when disclosing these horrors. Quote from physicist Steven Weinberg: "With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." The killings at aid distribution centres give out a strong sense of Gentiles being seen as no more than animals. 49 Shlomo 02:37 About their disregard for non-Jewish lives. Read the very important''Gentiles in Halacha (Judaic law)'' by Daat Emet, a Jewish humanist organization exposing the harsh laws against Gentiles in the Jewish religion. https://daatemet.org.il/en/torah-science-ethics/religion-ethics/gentiles-in-halacha/ 48 SJ 01:42 The next movie called 'The Killing Fields'. The world won't forget. 47 Stanley 00:41 To understand Israeli barbarism: Read the New Testament, which emphasizes the Sermon on the Mount, a most beautiful guideline to live a life of compassion and love. The Pentateuch of the Old Testament is full of animal sacrifices and the slaughter of innocent Midianites, Amalekites, Canaanites, etc. Also Egyptian firstborns. Reply to comment Thierry Reboud 01:14 Stanley "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil" (Mt 5:17) The opposition between the Old and New Testaments is a great classic of Christian anti-Judaism (not anti-Semitism). The US Christian Zionist far-right does not think otherwise, it is even the reason why they stand by Israel's side: because, according to their mythology, their so-called messiah can only come about if Israel is restored. By the way, Jesus was a Jewish rabbi. SJ 01:35 Stanley The Jews / zionist don't seem to embrace anything Christ said. They are rusted on to the antiquated, revengeful God of old testament. Having said that, did he not write. 'Thou shall not kill. Steal, destroy, bear false witness against thy neighbour...'? M. D. Block 08:00 Stanley I saw a Jewish documentary sometime ago that depicted the God of the Old Testament so sadistic and cruel, a more friendly God was created in the New Testament- Jesus! The Evangelicals still embrace and serve the cruel God of the Old Testament because they seem to reject the teachings of Jesus - love thy neighbor, heal the sick, feed the poor. etc. The Evangelics are just as sadistic and cruel as those terrorists slaughtering Palestinians, burning them alive and starving them, then mowing them down like animals when they go to food distributions centers to get food. "The banality of evil" @Stanley 12:01 Stanley Did the Sermon of the Mount prevent Crusaders from massacring Jews, Orthodox Chr, Muslims ? Did it prevent the 50k burning of witches ? the massacres under Colonialism (from Conquistadores to Leopold II) ? the pogroms ? (I leave out the Holocaust by Nazis - an anti-Christian ideology). The OT is also full of compassion. As Thierry said: Jesus was a Jewish rabbi, walking in the footsteps of rabbi Hillel - who summarized the Torah by the golden rule: "treat others like you want to be treated". 46 ELLEN CANTAROW 00:12 Israel is doing to the Palestinians what Nazi Germany did to the Jews. It is very clear, the charge should be extremely simple: Israel is guilty of genocide. It is a nation reviled around the globe, even in the United States where popular opinion differs from the vicious policies of Biden and Trump. It is a gangster, pariah nation. It is now, to use the term coined by Yeshayahu Leibowitz in the early 1970s, a Judeonazi state. By the way: I am Jewish, and I am appalled that Israel is committing its constant stream of atrocities in my name. Reply to comment Charles 00:43 ELLEN CANTAROW I remember your articles from the Village Voice. 45 dan 23:17 why the fuss now ? didn't we witness the same during Gaza's Great March of Return 6 years ago, with 223 killed and 9000 injured ? all of whom shot intentionally by IDF snipers, yet 99% were protesting peacefully and not posing any danger. Trust me: in 6 years the world will have long forgotten about the shootings near GFH centres. And so will you. Does anyone recall the Khan Younis massacre (275 shot) or the Rafah massacre (111 shot) seventy years ago? Reply to comment Charles 00:14 dan I raised the question of the "Great March of Return" snipers (well-reported in HaAretz) with someone who was speaking about the IDF's "purity of arms" code of conduct. . . . "I never heard of that incident", he replied. Memories die so quickly, when we'd rather forget something. 44 thank you Haaretz 23:05 for shedding light on this incomprehensible issue and for helping the IDF to swiftly clean its ranks. In the same vein: would you pls name and shame politicians who've incited to the above killings? Eg. MK Wasserlauf quoting Psalm 137 to IDF troops entering Gaza: "[...] a blessing on the one who seizes your babies and dashes them against the rocks!" //x.com/ireallyhateyou/status/1867674283209896075 43 POV 22:36 The Israeli military has reached such depths of moral depravity that they no longer qualify as an army. They are an extermination squad. There will be terrible effects on the young men who are "doing their patriotic duty" and are forced to perpetrate such barbaric crimes. Watch for an uptick in suicides and mental breakdown. This calls for a massive refusal to serve -- and a parents' revolt. Do not let your children be party to this slaughter. 42 ELPOD 22:10 The 'moral army in the world'? Israel's army is not even the most immoral army in the world, it is the most amoral army in the world. It's historical parallel is the myth of the clean Wehrmacht (ie only the Waffen SS massacred Jews, Slavs - Poles, Ukrainians, Russians…) 41 Davidovitch 21:27 My God. I am clearly pro-Israel but I will never be blind in front of such crimes. How come this General Vach is still in activity after so many crimes ? Where's the traditional Israeli military with high enlightened values ? It seems more and more messianic and settler soldiers spread their far-right fanatism in the military ranks. They are destroying the Zionist and Jewish values as if those values were nothing. They talk the same way the Iranian mollahs talk : "There's no innocent in Gaza"/"There's no innocent Israeli". Reply to comment CV 22:57 Davidovitch Vach is a symptom, not a cause. He is the product of decades of empowering of the settlers, bottle fed nice public money and total impunity by the Israelis even the non settlers, and behind them, the nice "liberal" American Zionists. Vach is what happens when you spend decades making sure no action no matter how excessive or criminal is ever met with a consequence of any sort. Vach is what you get when your only orientation about Israel is "I don't support the settlements BUT I support Israel", no matter what Israel does, arbitrary killings included. @Davidovitch 22:58 Davidovitch "traditional Israeli military"... You mean that of of Begin and his Irgun's massacre at Deir Yassin (1948), or that of Sharon and his Unit 101 massacre at Qibya (1953) ? Traditional enough ? ruth 07:24 Davidovitch i guess like the German mothers were accepting when their sons went to war and killed jewish people but were shocked when they found out after what was really going on, ..just like jewish mothers that are now proud of their sons shooting people in the back will be thinking differently in decades to come....so heartbreakingly shameful.........have we learnt nothing in the past decades ? M.D. Block 07:44 Davidovitch Vach makes Hitler look like a choir boy! The Gaza Genocide is no less horrific and barbaric than the Holocaust. Nazis were responsible for the Holocaust, not the Palestinians! Nazis killed Jews and Jews kill Palestinians. Jewish refugees went to Palestine, took homes and land that belong to the Palestinians making the Palestinians refugees. The oppressed are now the oppressors! Zionism is to the Palestinians what Nazism was to Jews. The NAKBA is to the Palestinians what the Holocaust was to Jews. The NAKBA ongoing for 77years which American Zionist and Truman were the architects (UN Res. 181) created the state of Israel in PALESTINE. The Jews were offered 55% of Palestine while they owned only 7% of the country. In the conflict, Israel ended up with 78% of Palestine. The Zionist military operations caused three-quarters to a million Palestinians to flee their homes. 40 TerryT 21:16 The conscience of Israeli soldiers revealing the extent of war crimes against Palestinians is not a new phenomenon, this occurs during every round of violence. Israelis know what is happening, and even expect it to happen and most couldn't care less because they don't consider Palestinians worthy of any remorse. They want Palestinians to feel pain and anguish and allow their sons and daughters to leave home as teenagers to indulge this indoctrinated hatred. These revelations will change nothing until the ICC and ICJ reject the threats against them to do their actual job. 39 Sandra Chitayat 20:49 It is clear that UNRWA & the PA must take care of the Gazan population. There is no other way. Are you guilty because you are hungry, starving for food & cannot hold yourself back? They have NO WEAPONS yet they are attacked with grenade launchers from the air & everything else? These are INDEED war crimes. Israel is the guilty party, not the starving civilians in Gaza ! 38 Ben Alofs 20:29 Israeli soldiers ordered deliberately to open fire on Palestinian crowds waiting for food is now featuring prominently on the evening news at BBC Radio 4. Netanyahu predictably calls it a blood libel. Does anyone doubt why foreign journalists are not allowed into the Gaza Strip? Reply to comment Liam 20:36 Ben Alofs One line in the article was interesting A soldier said that the world is no longer paying attention to Haza. Israeli society is so juvenile, so solipsistc, that because Israelis have forgotten about Gaza they assume the rest of the world has also They are profoundly wrong. Palestinian sovereignty has never been closer. Pierre 22:13 Ben Alofs I predict the Haaretz journalists who exposed this horrific and shocking story - revealing to the world, BBC, Al Jazeera, The Guardian, etc. - will be charged with treason by the Israeli government. The myth that the IDF is ''the most moral army in the world'' has been demolished. 37 Liam 20:26 The ICC and the ICJ are coming. They move very slowly, but similarly they don't change direction easily. They are coming. And Israeli society won't like what happens. Sadly, several million Palestinian people are paying a huge price in the meantime. Sumud. Reply to comment Liam 22:23 Liam Nobody introduced Hamas to the conversation until you did. I think you need a new crib sheet, some more bullsh!t bingo phrases masquerading as a meaningful contribution ELLEN CANTAROW 00:15 Liam Yes, it's always "But, Hamas!" Time to forget about fobbing off Israel's genocide onto Hamas. I don't like Hamas and who could? But it is a resistance movement that has emerged from seven decades and more of Israel's ethnic cleansing, land and water theft, and killing of Palestinian women, children and men. SJ 01:45 Liam I hope you're right Liam. Moving too slowly for Palestinians. 36 Liam 20:13 דג מלוח. Outrageous disdain for human lifein those two words. 35 The GHF is a complicit agent in slaughter 20:10 As of last Wednesday, 549 people have been killed and more than 4,000 have been injured while attempting to reach GHF sites or waiting for other aid trucks to arrive since the new system began operating on May 27, according to Gaza's Health Ministry. Reply to comment Kate 02:11 The GHF is a complicit agent in slaughter GHF more a means to discourage starving people from seeking aid than a mechanism for delivering it. One hour each day, WTF? Killing Fields is right. Thank you Haaretz for exposing what the world already knew because many of us have believed what the doctors have been saying all along. This kind of deliberate massacring of civilians has been going on from the very beginning of this ethnic cleansing operation. 34 Ben Alofs 20:08 The endless witness accounts by Palestinians are confirmed here by Israeli soldiers and by the short videos on YouTube of Israeli soldiers with their wild bursts of machine gun fire, pumping bullits into the crowds of waiting people with glee, authorised by their commanders. Just continue to record carefully. There will be a price to pay for this. Reply to comment Kate 02:12 Ben Alofs One can only hope. Israel's impunity must end. 33 Liam 20:06 Lebensraum 32 MostMoralArmy 19:57 The unnamed IDF spokeperson claims its own troops are lying to journalists when they report war crimes. Why would they do that? 31 Zoe 19:56 I am so tired of being told that being against this means you're antisemitic. Reply to comment Liam 20:04 Zoe Don't ever let that silence you Zoe. It's a bullshit trick they got away with for decades. I live in Israel, my wife is Jewish ( family, she's an atheist). She is the fiercest critic of the brutal Israeli state I have ever met. And yet, laughably, some morons label her, a Jewish Israeli woman, an antisemite. It's because these idiots have no other response to genuine criticism left in their cribsheets. Speak from your heart, don't self-censor. That's what these @rseholes want Zoe 20:07 Zoe Thank you for that!! It's obviously not the case. 20:41 Zoe But many who are against sionism/Israel are. That's part of the problem. SJ 01:53 Zoe I was holding a Palestinian flag, someone walked passed, said it was 'Antisemitic' I replied, 'Lady, if I was Antisemitic I wouldn't be holding this flag. They've changed the definition to suit the narrative, silence critics of Israel's actions. It must be very challenging for your family Liam living in Israel. I hope for changes to their regime to make it safer for everyone. 30 What it takes for genocide 19:51 Virulently racist supremacist israeli jews who have no regard for non Jewish human life and are happy to "pull wings off flies" 29 Alik 19:15 The last piece of information and testimony the ICC may need: "It's a killing field," one soldier said. "Where I was stationed, between one and five people were killed every day. They're treated like a hostile force – no crowd-control measures, no tear gas – just live fire with everything imaginable: heavy machine guns, grenade launchers, mortars. Then, once the center opens, the shooting stops, and they know they can approach. Our form of communication is gunfire." As evil as it gets, and the US State Department has just offered $30 Million dollars to this despicable genocide. 28 Alida van der Veen 19:06 "Israeli soldiers in Gaza told Haaretz that the army has deliberately fired at Palestinians near aid distribution sites over the past month" "In a closed-door meeting this week with senior officials from the Military Advocate General's Office, held in light of the daily deaths of dozens of civilians near aid zones, the legal officials instructed that the incidents be investigated by the IDF General Staff's Fact-Finding Assessment Mechanism." Was Haaretz present at this closed door meeting? Or: "A source who attended the meeting told Haaretz that representatives of the Military Advocate General's Office rejected the IDF's claims." "Haaretz has learned that the Military Advocate General has instructed the IDF General Staff's Fact-Finding Assessment Mechanism – reviewing incidents involving potential violations of the laws of war – to investigate suspected war crimes at these sites." "in a statement released following publication of this exposé," What exposé, where published? 27 Bret 19:05 IDF investigations of itself is an unfunny joke. In twenty months NOT ONE IDF soldier or airman has been charged with intentionally or negligently killing or injuring an uninvolved Palestinian civilian. The press needs to repeatedly ask why not ONE IDF investigation has been completed? The world isn't stupid and Israel will find the world will not let Israel grant impunity to war criminals. 26 " Ich habe nur Befehle befolgt" 17:55 25 Nicole 16:57 So, even though this is supposed to have Benn told by Israeli soldiers, the single voice is of a Palestinian woman. We learned they received Salsa in they packages and someone asked to film that... Shots were shot in the air to disperse the crowd. The rest of your article is pure ideology. You do not even comment on the general state of health of the people, which can be easily evaluated from images. Reply to comment Zoe 19:57 Nicole People denied the Holocaust too. jon gazzard 20:16 Nicole some will deny to the very end...in 1945 the allied soldiers rounded up nearby villagers and towngo'ers and made them see what was done in the name?  24 Anna f 16:56 7 years ago I made aliyah to join the IDF. I served my 2 years as a cargo plane technician. I was deep in the propaganda. I cannot put into words how deeply ashamed I am with the IDF as a whole for the insane amount of war crimes and atrocities committed during this war especially. I can't undo what I did but I'm trying to become more active against this fascist government. My heart breaks for everyone who has suffered at the hands of Israel. May this all end as soon as possible with justice being served. Reply to comment Most people here will empathise with your sense of betrayal. 21:46 Anna f I imagine it must feel the same as it does to discover one's partner has not only been unfaithful, but has also been lying and living a double life the whole time. It's probably no consolation, but you're by no means alone. Anna f 11:18 Anna f I deeply appreciate your reply. There's definitely a sense of moral injury here, for sure. I befriended a Gazan man march 2023 and it was actually my first time really talking with someone from "the other side." That was probably the biggest factor in me realizing how I'd been unintentionally dehumanizing Palestinians. To try to explain to this person why I came to Israel was a very strange experience. I definitely understand a lot more nuance in the situation now than I did back when I was enlisted. Ultimately, I hope I can make a positive difference here in some way, at the very least by sharing my story. Take care. 23 Ohio Marti 16:16 Tragic, evil, and there will be consequences for everyone including the soldiers and commanders, even if no one but desperate food-seeking Gazans are punished. Decent people don't forget such things. Our Vietnam veterans are still haunted by things they did and witnessed in Vietnam. These actions are horrific for Gazans and are staining not just Israel's reputation but their soldiers' souls. Reply to comment Ely 18:27 Ohio Marti They should be haunted, but I don't think they will, like their ancestors who fought the previous wars weren't. They are indoctrinated since their birth, for them Palestinians are enemies. They truly believe that G*d is on their side and that the land is their promised land. I don't see any possible solution to this conflict, the situation is only destined to escalate. OhioMarti 19:04 Ohio Marti I hope you are wrong, Ely. But what you say it is scary in the long run, because when a person/group starts to use any 'god' as justification for vicious behavior, people with other 'gods' will behave in kind. I'm a Jew, but it seems dangerous to me for any religion to think 'god' loves its adherents most. Religion can be used to justify human's most animal-like behavior. You see that all through history. thanks Marti. 22:43 Ohio Marti Sheva. 22 jon gazzard 15:41 My God.. "Hamas is a brutal terrorist organization that starves the Gazan population and endangers them to maintain its rule in the Gaza Strip. Hamas does everything in its power to prevent the successful distribution of food in Gaza and to disrupt humanitarian aid." you say hamas are doing these bad things,i say the IDF is doing it too Reply to comment SJ 02:04 jon gazzard Hamas didn't disrupt aid when UNWRA and World food kitchen were distributing food. They came under attack from Israel. 21 Michael 15:31 Recall how the late Yeshayahu Leibowitch called this kind of behavior? 20 steve157 15:24 Leaving aside whether a policy of red light green light using live ammunition is appropriate, or even conscionable, it isn't as this headline states, deliberately ordering IDF troops to fire at unarmed Palestinians waiting for humanitarian aid, its ordering IDF troops to fire near them. Given this headline has been quoted by the BBC already that significant distinction in principle, even if that isn't born out in practice has been lost. And presumably was intended to be. Reply to comment Benny 16:13 steve157 More than 500 people in a few weeks have surely not been killed by fire near people. Billh42 17:52 steve157 steve157, perhaps you should read the article again.You'll find quotes like "When we asked why they opened fire, we were told it was an order from above and that the civilians had posed a threat to the troops. I can say with certainty that the people were not close to the forces and did not endanger them. It was pointless – they were just killed, for nothing. This thing called killing innocent people – it's been normalized." "Why are people collecting food being killed just because they stepped out of line, or because some commander doesn't like that they're cutting in? Why have we reached a point where a teenager is willing to risk his life just to pull a sack of rice off a truck? And that's who we're firing artillery at?" "The claim that these are isolated cases doesn't align with incidents in which grenades were dropped from the air and mortars and artillery were fired at civilians," said one legal official. That's just a sample of the quotes you've missed. steve157 19:07 steve157 Hi Benny, I specifically made zero comment on what was actually happening in Gaza, restricting myself only to the fact that deliberately ordering IDF troops to fire at unarmed Palestinians waiting for humanitarian aid isn't the same as ordering IDF troops to fire near them. steve157 19:14 steve157 Hi Billh42 I didn't miss those quotes, and if you read my two caveats, nothing I wrote indicated I had taken any view on them. TerryT 21:02 steve157 Steve wants to argue semantics while setting aside what is actually happening in Gaza. He is dismissive of the death toll, irrelevant to him, but upset at how reality is headlined. Is there anything more pathetic in this world than an apologist for genocide? steve157 00:03 steve157 Yes, TerryT. Someone who confuses speaking for me with responding to me. TerryT 02:31 steve157 Your own weasely words. "I specifically made zero comment on what was actually happening in Gaza." "Leaving aside whether a policy of red light green light using live ammunition is appropriate, or even conscionable..." 19 hugo de gauche 15:21 Don't worry dudes this is fine. The few hundred killed were making the IDF feel uncomfortable so had to be taken down. And in other news did anyone read those horrific stories about Israeli cats that got lost from their owners when Iran bombed their building? Tragic 18 hugo de gauche 15:15 wow - in any sane place this would bring down the government 17 FS 15:02 Enough said below. But the IDF absolutey used to be humane and fair, its generals highly educated and well balanced, but this semi-fascist government has destroyed it all. So I denounce its current leaders and its generals, because I know that the majority of Israelis are morally sound. So please do not load this on the shoulders of Ïsrael in general. Reply to comment Susan 15:10 FS Clearly the Israeli public supports this. There is no way they don't know what is going on. Concerned citizen 15:17 FS Most Israelis do not know what is going on. Our news sources are censored. This is the first time I am receiving such details. Yes, some Israelis don't care what happens to Gazans. Basically, all do not know what is going on. Israelis dont care 15:24 FS Its all over social media. Thats where I've been seeing these shootings for the last few weeks. If Israelis dont know about it its because they dont want to know. They dont care. Thats not gona stand up qhen they rest of the world are watching you kill starving civilians everyday. Connecticut 15:34 FS Reading some of these quotes are very reminiscent of what US soldiers sent to Vietnam said. If you constantly tell soldiers that everybody they see is an enemy, that there are no civilians, they will stop making distinctions. They will kill everybody they see who isn't wearing a soldiers uniform -- women, children anybody. Then shame on you 17:37 FS and other Israelis for sticking their heads in the sand and not seeking out information on this massacre. Ignorance is not an excuse and your society will pay dearly for this mistake. malka chaya 18:03 FS Oh, I didn't realize Israelis did not have access to the internet. I suppose they only get their news from gov't sponsored tv stations. What BS! malka chaya 18:07 FS It will lead to "antisemitism" if you support Israel. That's what all the cries of "antisemitism" are about. People want to be able to support this deranged, ethnocratic, genocidal, supremacist country without being called out on it, or subjected to criticism, or ostracism. If I were a college student right now, I would not want to associate with other students who support Israel. And I am Jewish! If students didn't want to associate with others who supported Apartheid in South Africa, were they accused of a hate crime? Christos Giannou 18:28 FS "The IDF used to be humane and fair"? In the 1956 war, Israeli soldiers executed Egyptian prisoners of war. In 1967, the forced thousands of Egyptian soldiers to remove their shoes and then walk in the Sinai (perhaps more "humane" than execution? but then many died of thirst and sunstroke). Need I go on? 16 Leslie 14:58 Why is Haaretz publishing this? It increases the hatred towards Israel, already demonized by the whole world, especially by influential young Americans? Haaretz should have kept quiet about the horrific actions of the IDF. You also have to remember this could lead to far more antisemitism outside of Israel. Reply to comment Muddle 15:07 Leslie They publish this so people like you can't claim later that you didn't know Jonathan 15:11 Leslie This can't be a serious response. Why? It is a newspaper! Not the spokesperson of the IDF like you seem to be. Let me tell you: criticizing horrors and human rights violations should be the core of a democratic state. For decades Israel was able to fend off critique by saying it was antisemitic. Well, no more. Phil Linder 15:13 Leslie Leslie, are you serious? Susan 15:13 Leslie Clearly you are joking. Don't know how you can joke about such a serious issue. But you are correct. Israel's actions will increasingly isolate and make it a pariah as it should be becuase they are commiting a genocide. History will not forget this and Israelis will pay one way or another for their actions. Connecticut 15:37 Leslie Leslie, world outside of Israel already knew this was the story. There was no other explanation for the killings. We see Israelis trying to cover it up. If we didn't see anyone in Israel telling the truth we would believe the worst of all Israelis. Where 17:18 Leslie Is Snowden? Is Assange? Israël is more important. Bunch of hypocrites. 15 Alex 14:44 I hope the people here in London don't read this article. The Brits already have a hatred towards Israelis, as evidenced by the huge marches every Saturday against Israel in London. I humbly suggest to Israelis visiting Britain not to mention they are Israelis, or else the many tough Brits, looking for a fight, will tear them apart. Reply to comment Thierry Reboud 14:57 Alex Ah, but what a mystery! I would like to know what can justify such a detestation of Israel, really I don't see it. By the way, the detestation of Israel is not limited to the United Kingdom: it seems that even in the United States it is increasing. Surprising, isn't it? 14 Lisa Stone 14:37 What on earth happened to the Israeli soul? I used to love Israeli people and considered them smart, suave, fun-loving people. Never did I imagine they would descend to such levels of monstrosity. Just like the Jewish Holocaust, humanity will never forget the Gaza Holocaust. Actually, this is much worse, because we have been forced to watch these atrocities on our TVs and have been rendered unable to even speak about them, because of "antisemitism" concerns. This is a new low for the entire world and very damaging to the human psyche everywhere. Reply to comment Concerned citizen 15:24 Lisa Stone What happened to us? Our government has been stolen. We did not pay attention to what was happening during the ~20 years of Netanyahu rule. In 2022, to stay in power, Netanyahu formed a coalition with the worst of the worst and their fascism has taken control of the government, the police, the army, and most of the media. This very moment, the coalition is changing and enacting laws to gain control of education, health, housing, etc. Too late, we began to fight back but hope to prevail. UL 15:35 Lisa Stone Sadly, the horrific slaughter and destruction in Gaza has already been forgotten, to the extent it was ever reported on in the West. Someday in the far future, perhaps, an historian will stumble across this genocide and ask why no one did anything. 13 Dianelos Georgoudis 14:29 I think the monstrous evil of the current government will end badly for Israel. But whatever happens, history will record that Haaretz stood with justice. You are an exceptional newspaper, not only in Israel, but across the Western world. Reply to comment Susan 15:17 Dianelos Georgoudis Agreed. A tiny minority of Israelis still seem to have a conscience and a soul. Dianelos Georgoudis @Susan 17:53 Dianelos Georgoudis I think it's more than a tiny minority, but they are almost invisible. Please use some cognitive empathy here. Put yourself in the shoes of the average Israeli Jew. They have been conditioned for many years to believe that Jews are a uniquely humanitarian nation, that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, that the IDF is the most moral army in the world, and that Israel is only defending its right to exist. Then the massive war crimes, including genocide, in Gaza happen. It's understandable that many would fall into denial, and that many of those who believe their eyes would fall into silence. 12 Thierry Reboud 14:20 The most moral army in the world, without the slightest possible doubt. At least, it allows us to put an end to this children's tale that Israeli officials used to tell (and that only specially credulous people believed). By the way, it gives a good slap to anti-Semites: Jews are exactly like all others, as soon as they have unlimited power, they behave as badly as any people in history (the Bible already told it). 11 Nicole 14:14 Doesn't matter how many military victories Israel chalks up and boasts about, it has destroyed itself from within and become rotten to the core. The price will be paid by Israeli society for generations to come. NOT IN MY NAME!! like many others I left, anticipating this demise into moral terpitude. 10 Shlomo 14:13 To understand the cruelty of Israeli Jews and their soldiers, read chapter 5 of ''Jewish History, Jewish Religion,'' by human rights activist Israel Shahak. Https://yplus.ps/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Shahak-Israel-Jewish-History-Jewish-Religion-The-Weight-of-Three-Thousand-Years.pdf Remember Judaism unlike Christianity and Islam is a tribal religion. If a non-Jew wants to covert to Judaism, Orthodox rabbis, whether in Jerusalem or London make it extremely difficult to. Reply to comment Shlomo 14:23 Shlomo Also read the very important''Gentiles in Halacha (Judaic law)'' by Daat Emet, a Jewish humanist organization exposing the harsh laws against Gentiles in the Jewish religion. https://daatemet.org.il/en/torah-science-ethics/religion-ethics/gentiles-in-halacha/ Cynth 11:31 Shlomo Yes I've read it. What a read! And Shahak once got into all sorts of trouble didn't he by claiming that ??ultra-orthodox Jews or was it rabbis?? wouldn't help a non-Jew say in a serious car accident on the Sabbath due to this being "work" - & was lambasted for claiming this. Then along comes this current war & I hear on the news about a debate going on about whether the ultra orthodox can or should fight. Ah yes, came the answer - since it's about saving JEWISH life! Aha! 9 SW 14:05 Israeli politicians and IDF will tell you that the Israeli army is the most moral army in the world. They never were the most moral army in the world, just ask any Palestinian in the West Bank. 8 John Cronin 13:39 ' 'It's a Killing Field': IDF Soldiers Ordered to Shoot Deliberately at Unarmed Gazans Waiting for Humanitarian Aid ' What then is to be done and, indeed, can anything be done to prevent such deadly behaviour from continuing onwards in a conflict that seems destined to go on forever, its all too familiar progress towards who knows where unable to be influenced and corrected by any decisive action taken by a world rightly appalled and mightily disturbed by these and many other savagely significant events? Laxiankey.com - " We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. " ( Albert Einstein ) 7 Phil Linder 13:36 What else needs to happen until the world open eyes and react? I'm still confident that one day Israel will be held accountable for all its heinous crimes. Reply to comment John Cronin 15:42 Phil Linder But what is to be actually done, not merely something opined or mooted in a constant wail against the often brutal and inexcusable behaviour of those on both sides here? Laxiankey.com - " We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. " ( Albert Einstein ) 6 Miramar 13:01 "It's a Killing Field': IDF Soldiers Ordered to Shoot Deliberately at Unarmed Gazans Waiting for Humanitarian Aid." Looks like Jewish Israelis did not learn the lessons of the Holocaust-Shoah. The Germans in WWII were also "just obeying orders." This is no excuse. Israeli soldiers can refuse to follow orders. 5 Aurangzeb Iqbal 10:50 27.06.2025 Even when the Zionists plead"Guilty" with overwhelming evidence against them caught on camera America and Europe still finds them "Not Guilty". 4 Tzezl 10:49 27.06.2025 IDF and Mossad are literally crime machines 3 Gutmensch 10:23 27.06.2025 Quote: "One soldier described the situation as a total breakdown of the Israel Defense Forces' ethical codes in Gaza." This "one soldier" must have been joking. Everyone knows that there is no such thing as Israel Defense Forces' ethical codes in Gaza -- or anywhere else for that matter. 2 CV 07:28 27.06.2025 In 2018, 40% of young IDF cadets were from settler background. In 2025, it's obviously worse, of course. Those people, they are the ones who chant "death to Arabs" in Jerusalem streets, and they think it. Now, they have been given the opportunity to enact it, and they act on it of course. And those reservists, what do they do ? They talk to haaretz anonymously and say they are "surprised" ? But the are still in Gaza. They are still part of the butchery. Israel is lost. And American Zionists still pontificate that "this is complicated" and what's needed is "context". 🤦🤦🤦 Reply to comment Jim Hassan 13:48 CV This is exactly it CV ! the Israeli army is infested with settlers and fanatics. Those very same fanatics who terrorize the Palestinians in the WB. Those very same fanatics who parade in Jerusalem and chant "death to Arabs", "may your villages burn". Those very same fanatics who terrorized the streets of Amsterdam and cry when they get caught. Those very same fanatics who instrumentalize the Shoah. Those very same fanatics who govern Israel today and cheered when Rabin was shot. Those very same fanatics who have access to highly sophisticated weapons and glorify the slaughter of dozens of thousands of Palestinian women and children. Those very same fanatics who can decide to press the nuclear button one day. Where is the threat exactly ? these people disgust me. Concerned citizen 15:28 CV What is the source of the 2018 figure that 40% of IDF cadets came from settler backgrounds? 1 Ronr 06:45 27.06.2025 The casual bastardry of the IDF is breathtaking. There is nothing human left in the IDF or the Israeli government. |