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    Arnaud Bertrand: Chinese EUV Lithography 📂 Archived Message

    Posted by sashimi on December 18, 2025, 6:45 am

    18 Dec 2025 · 4:07 AM UTC
    https://nitter.net/RnaudBertrand/status/2001504635027402947

    This is an incredible story by Reuters: they reveal that China now has a working
    EUV lithography machine prototype, which makes China the only country in the
    world to have succeeded at replicating the ASML technology, years earlier than
    anticipated.

    The machine apparently "fills nearly an entire factory floor". It's operational
    and successfully generates extreme ultraviolet light (what "EUV" stands for),
    but has not yet produced working chips.

    The objective for the latter is 2028, which is a crazy fast timeline: ASML took
    18 years to go from prototype to machines that could produce
    commercially-available chips, China aims to do it in 3.

    The security measures around the project look insane. The employees work under
    fake identities so they don't know each other's real names. They work inside
    secure facilities where "no one outside the compound could know what they were
    building - or that they were there at all". They're divided in "teams who are
    kept isolated from each other to protect the confidentiality of the project,"
    where "they don't know what the other teams work on."

    For foreign employees, China exceptionally gave them Chinese passports and
    allowed them to maintain dual citizenship, which is normally forbidden under
    Chinese law.

    This seems to be because some of the employees are former ASML workers such as
    Lin Nan, ASML's former head of light source technology
    (https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3308204/former-asml-head-scientist-lin-nan-drives-chinas-latest-euv-breakthrough),
    who would be less vulnerable to Western sanctions under Chinese citizenship.

    The salaries offered are apparently "uncapped" with "signing bonuses that
    started at 3 million to 5 million yuan" and "home-purchase subsidies".

    This all means that we're looking, within a few years, at yet another
    self-inflicted wound by the West: the development, because of sanctions, of a
    serious competitor for Europe's most successful technology company (one of our
    very rare ones!).

    And the worst part, for Europe, is that these sanctions weren't even initiated
    by us nor serve our interests: we just followed Washington's lead as usual,
    suffering the costs while getting no obvious benefit out of it. Quite the
    contrary in fact as all its doing is replacing a massive customer with a massive
    future competitor.

    We, again, let ourselves be the chessboard on which others play. We just absorb
    the damage from both sides and have no voice in the game.

    Link to the story:
    https://www.reuters.com/world/china/how-china-built-its-manhattan-project-rival-west-ai-chips-2025-12-17/

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    • Arnaud Bertrand: Chinese EUV Lithography - sashimi December 18, 2025, 6:45 am

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