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Just how many Dr Bernard Conlons ARE there?

Posted by Morrissey <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Morrissey' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 14, 2022, 5:34 am

Just how many Dr Bernard Conlons ARE there?
RNZ National News, 12 noon, Friday 14 January 2022

First item on the news: a complaint about an anti-vax doctor who has claimed that vaccinated people are magnetic. Cross to an excited female reporter who says of the doctor: "They jumped up and down with excitement when they heard their town was one of the least vaccinated towns in New Zealand. We can now report that the doctor was the Murupara general practitioner Bernard Conlon...."

We need to know: does Dr Conlon have an evil twin, or a doppelganger a la that terrifying robot in Terminator 2? If not, then why the hell is an RNZ reporter referring to him as "they"?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/126983349/gp-is-treated-like-a-hero-in-his-small-town-but-are-his-statements-putting-lives-at-risk

My word - this must be the most rabidly troll-like piece of "get vaxxed" fascism so far posted here.

Posted by Jim_Carlucci <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Jim_Carlucci' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 14, 2022, 9:59 am, in reply to "Just how many Dr Bernard Conlons ARE there?"

...is some kind of intravenous Koolaid aka "gene therapy" messing with your mind, perhaps ?

No wonder noone else is bothering to respond to your intelligence-insulting, conform-and-comply, get-vaxxed propaganda.

See: "Invasion of the Body, Mind and Soul Snatchers"

Re: My word - this must be the most rabidly troll-like piece of "get vaxxed" fascism so far posted here.

Posted by Sinister Burt <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Sinister+Burt' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 14, 2022, 1:53 pm, in reply to "My word - this must be the most rabidly troll-like piece of "get vaxxed" fascism so far posted here."

You called me a fascist before - are you sure you know what it means? (clue it doesn't mean thimnking vaccines work, or doubting 'vaccine magnetism').

Here's some guides if you need help

Some more...

Posted by Sinister Burt <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Sinister+Burt' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 14, 2022, 2:00 pm, in reply to "Re: My word - this must be the most rabidly troll-like piece of "get vaxxed" fascism so far posted here."

Also saw these recently - quite interesting:

You've misread the intent of my post, Jim.

Posted by Morrissey <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Morrissey' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 14, 2022, 11:28 am, in reply to "Just how many Dr Bernard Conlons ARE there?"

What bothered me was the absurd, looney feminist-derived use of the word "they" instead of "him."

I made no comment about the rightness or wrongness of the news item, only about the nutty misuse of personal pronouns.

Re: You've misread the intent of my post, Jim.

Posted by Sinister Burt <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Sinister+Burt' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 14, 2022, 1:55 pm, in reply to "You've misread the intent of my post, Jim."

Woke police alert - are you sure about the 'they' thing? eg:

https://www.scarymommy.com/gender-neutral-pronouns-arent-new-where-they-come-from/#:~:text=Geoffrey%20Chaucer%20used%20the%20singular,1813%20book%20Pride%20and%20Prejudice.

"Geoffrey Chaucer used the singular 'they' as early as 1386 in The Canterbury Tales; Shakespeare often used they/them pronouns in his work, specifically in Hamlet in 1599; and Jane Austen used them in her 1813 book Pride and Prejudice.13 Aug 2021"

https://public.oed.com/blog/a-brief-history-of-singular-they/

Re: You've misread the intent of my post, Jim.

Posted by Sinister Burt <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Sinister+Burt' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 14, 2022, 1:57 pm, in reply to "Re: You've misread the intent of my post, Jim."

btw - referring to myself as the woke police there, not you

Re: You've misread the intent of my post, Jim.

Posted by Sinister Burt <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Sinister+Burt' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 14, 2022, 2:28 pm, in reply to "Re: You've misread the intent of my post, Jim."

Here's maybe more the thing...(from the link)

"Kelly Ann Sippell’s 1991 Master’s thesis titled Solving the Great Pronoun Problem, highlighted the following third-person and gender neutral pronouns that were used to include and assume ‘him and her’ or ‘his and hers’ in a singular word: hes, hiser, hem, ons, e, heer, he’er, hesh, se, heesh, herim, co, tey, per, na, en, herm, hir, and shey.

But the word that got the most traction before other widely used third-person pronouns was the word ‘thon.’ Thon was coined by Charles Crozat (C.C.) Converse in 1858 and was a contracted form of ‘that one.’ The word was included in Merriam-Webster’s Second New International Dictionary in 1934 as “a proposed genderless pronoun of the third person,” but was removed in their third, Unabridged dictionary in 1961.

...

"Nonbinary, transgender, and gender nonconforming folks have existed since humans have existed, but giving names and pronouns to our identities is often met with resistance and disrespect when we offer pronouns that aren’t male or female. The same is true when folks use a mix of gender and gender neutral pronouns. Halsey, for example, uses she/they pronouns. Ze, hir, and xe pronouns are also used by folks who don’t identify as either male or female. This video is a great primer to better understand why folks use gender neutral pronouns and how you can learn how to use them."

I'm all for the changing of language (well, it doesn't matter what i'm up for, language is gonna change anyway) - a changing language is an alive language, especially through the more bottom up medium of slang. We don't want to freeze language into some arbitrary dessicated standard invented in the 17th or 19th century - that would be ridic.

Re: You've misread the intent of my post, Jim.

Posted by Ken Waldron <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Ken+Waldron' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 14, 2022, 3:40 pm, in reply to "Re: You've misread the intent of my post, Jim."

the word ‘thon.’ Thon was coined by Charles Crozat (C.C.) Converse in 1858 and was a contracted form of ‘that one.’

‘thon’ is pretty common Scots for "that/that one" as opposed to "this/ this one". It's recorded 1804.

"Nonbinary, transgender, and gender nonconforming folks have existed since humans have existed"

Nonconforming folks, all fine and good, but on supposedly "non-binary" folk, theres no such thing.

"Since humans have existed" they have been binary: two haploid cells: sperm and egg, coming together. That's how they come to exist and how they continue to do so.

Re: You've misread the intent of my post, Jim.

Posted by Sinister Burt <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Sinister+Burt' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 14, 2022, 5:43 pm, in reply to "Re: You've misread the intent of my post, Jim."

I thought xe might like that bit

I'm a bit of a girl (not telling you which bit though (hopefully more of a t*t than a c*nt)). Anyway lets not go there again, it's a bit boring (and not worth any bad feeling) - the post was more about language and how it changes organically.

So, a swift friendly change of subject: interesting how accents have changed over time too. I came across these videos of a bloke reading phonetically written (or something) accents from the past:

and this:
https://the-toast.net/2014/03/19/a-linguist-explains-british-accents-of-yore/

Thanks Burt, very enlightening.

Posted by Morrissey <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Morrissey' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 14, 2022, 8:03 pm, in reply to "Re: You've misread the intent of my post, Jim."

What a presumptious rash fool we have been about this issue.

Re: You've misread the intent of my post, Jim.

Posted by Ken Waldron <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Ken+Waldron' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2022, 8:01 pm, in reply to "Re: You've misread the intent of my post, Jim."

"I'm a bit of a girl (not telling you which bit though (hopefully more of a t*t than a c*nt)). Anyway lets not go there again, it's a bit boring (and not worth any bad feeling)"

Dunno what that all means. I don't really care what people believe: the bread and wine becomes the body and blood of Christ, transwomen ARE women: all that belief stuff: if it makes your day and floats your boat, so be it.
I only object to people proposing that I too should believe it because its apparently "true".

I don't just object but reject absolutely the idea that I should bow to anyone's religious beliefs by convention or indeed what seems to be increasingly the case now, by law to join in their own special make-believe.

Otherwise thanks for posting the vids. Funnily enough I watched them a few months ago and enjoyed them.

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