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Craig Murray and the liberal myth of confict coming from lack of communication

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 13, 2022, 11:06 pm

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/05/what-might-a-ukraine-peace-agreement-look-like/comment-page-1/#comment-1018792

I can't be bothered to paste it.

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It must be dreadful if you are not pasting it : )

Posted by Tomski <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=TomskiD' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 13, 2022, 11:15 pm, in reply to "Craig Murray and the liberal myth of confict coming from lack of communication"

I can't be bothered to paste it.

I get your drift and shan't be bothered to read it. Why get depressed with liberals

Thanks for summarising it

Eythenkew!....nm

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 13, 2022, 11:26 pm, in reply to "It must be dreadful if you are not pasting it : )"

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Re: Craig Murray and the liberal myth of confict coming from lack of communication

Posted by Ken Waldron <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Ken+Waldron' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 14, 2022, 12:21 am, in reply to "Craig Murray and the liberal myth of confict coming from lack of communication"

"If we are starting from broadly the current territorial position, my basic proposal would be this. Ukraine formally cedes Crimea to Russia, and Russia hands back all other Ukrainian territory, including the Donbass.

This gives Putin a boast he can make to his people..."

-What an idiot...Crimea is long done and dusted: there's no boast in that to take to anyone. Its all about the Donbas and the Black sea.

Otherwise I think the Russians don't give a shit about the perfidious US & Europe any more. It really is Russia moving deliberately towards the "Great uncoupling".
Finland and Sweden can tool up all they want: they will be impoverishing themselves for nothing. Russia will take the intitial hit for Mother Russia and Western sanctions will act contrarily as a form of protectionism for Russia: encouraging the local economy in the long term: much as the last ones did.

-Maybe NATO has what it wants out of this situation but Russia will have what it needs.

Captain Obvious from Tunbridge Wells agrees

Posted by Tomski <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=TomskiD' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 14, 2022, 12:35 am, in reply to "Re: Craig Murray and the liberal myth of confict coming from lack of communication"

Re: Craig Murray and the liberal myth of confict coming from lack of communication

Posted by Gerard <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=GKH' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 14, 2022, 8:40 pm, in reply to "Craig Murray and the liberal myth of confict coming from lack of communication"

Whilst both parties deserve censure isn't that always the case when policy is pursued by other means? Otherwise conflict does proceed from lack of communication it cannot be argued....but those failing to communicate are the people's represented not their representatives..

Re: Craig Murray and the liberal myth of confict coming from lack of communication

Posted by Ken Waldron <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Ken+Waldron' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 14, 2022, 9:33 pm, in reply to "Re: Craig Murray and the liberal myth of confict coming from lack of communication"

"Otherwise conflict does proceed from lack of communication it cannot be argued....but those failing to communicate are the people's represented not their representatives..."

-And we have an entire Communications Industry otherwise known as the Media who seem hell bent on making sure that communication of honest information to those people is turned to miscommunication or indeed into an absolute silence.
When they do make a noise, the corporate media's self-appointed role increasingly appears be about beating the drums of war even lounder than the most despicable of war-mongering politicians.

Re: Craig Murray and the liberal myth of confict coming from lack of communication

Posted by Gerard <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=GKH' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 16, 2022, 7:36 pm, in reply to "Re: Craig Murray and the liberal myth of confict coming from lack of communication"

"And we have an entire Communications Industry otherwise known as the Media who seem hell bent on making sure that communication of honest information to those people is turned to miscommunication or indeed into an absolute silence.
When they do make a noise, the corporate media's self-appointed role increasingly appears be about beating the drums of war even lounder than the most despicable of war-mongering politicians" For once we agree...looking for moral support Kenneth?

Man of Kent..

Posted by Gerard <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=GKH' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 16, 2022, 7:38 pm, in reply to "Re: Craig Murray and the liberal myth of confict coming from lack of communication"

P.S I was born in Pembury Hospital: https://www.nhs.uk/services/hospitals/overview/defaultview.aspx?id=2860

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