That one has created a society where respectable middle class families feel the need to arm themselves to the teeth, in order to feel safe, is, surely an indictment of an entire culture.
I'm particularly amused by the woke BBC correspondents having such difficulty knowing how to describe the looney ####er####er who murdered these children and teachers. A woman who used male pronouns, doesn't cut it for me, compared to looney ####er####er! Think that one is so sensitive about what to call this creature. She may not have a dick, and has rejected her ####, so what's wrong with arsehole? We all have those.
Re: Nashville school shooting: six shot dead by former student
I think that it's a bit extreme, as a transitioning woman, that one decides to show just how masculine one really is, by embracing the worst characteristic of a male imaginable, that of the mass murderer!
and Gary Younge blaming mass shootings on "incel culture" and" Toxic masculinity" except as I pointed out at the time, all three of his prime examples were on the autistic spectrum and indeed if I remember correctly had all been diagnosed with Aspergers.
I think you will find the same thing to be true of the supposed non-binary trans-woman/man perpetrators in these school shootings(I understand that's the fourth )
The real issue is that people with Autism-Aspergers simply do not have the same ability to empathise with others nor the ability to discern the rules and structures we live by.
Not all by any means represent a threat, but with easy access to guns it doesn't actualy take many.
Yet nobody wants to talk about it: the lefties blame the influence of societal masculine culture: "the Patriarchy" that those with Aspergers in fact have no real idea about.... the righties on the other hand want to blame societal moral laxness: leftie "gender" identity, but those who sufferer gender confusion are often masking underlying autism struggling to find a path. As an example the National Gender Service(NGS) in Ireland recently estimated that as many as 90% of the people who used its service in 2022 "...may be autistic."
We can talk about all of them though - understanding the effects of patriarchy, toxic masculinity, gender identity issues and autism when relevant - it's not a zero sum game (also, the autism etc and the medication often associated with these shootings is often mentioned by 'lefties' in articles about this in my experience, more than toxic masculinity (maybe i'm not reading enough of them)).
If you don't think toxic masculinity exists, maybe you never had any blokes making themselves ill by drinking/drugging/fighting too much, being egged on by, or trying to impress 'the boys' in your circle of friends (i was always the hippy saying, 'if you don't want to do that you shouldn't do it just cos these muppets are making fun of you') - i've had friends die, effectively from toxic masculinity (or just male stupidity if you like). It shouldn't really need me to add: none of that means masculinity itself is inherently toxic - nobody says that (that's fox news-level straw man rhetoric).
"The real issue is that people with Autism-Aspergers simply do not have the same ability to empathise with others..." - that's not quite correct afaik - there's a spectrum (obviously) but the common idea that autistic people don't understand empathy or other people's emotions is a bit of a myth, and is not how we're told to understand autism these days, including by autistic people (we were told they prefer this phrasing to 'people with autism' too - accounting for how people want to be referred to? how woke!)) - it's a bit more varied than that, but generally it's not that they lack empathy, but maybe they have difficulty expressing it, which is very different (for them anyway).
When talking about autism, i've been told (i had a recent 'training' session about this fwiw) that multiple 'conditions' are the norm not the exception (i can't remember the wording they used) - so if a person is autistic they are very likely to have other issues (dyslexia/dyspraxia, various mental health issues etc) - this could extend to issues regarding differing gender identities too, whatever you think they're based on, without necessarily attributing causation either way.
it's almost as if some very smart and poweful people sat down and created a harmless political reservation for the left, called 'identity' and 'gender' and encouraged them to rant and rave to their heart's content about the correct fukcing pronouns; whilst the adults got on with the task of running the world for their benefit.
Its a derogatory pop-psychology catch-all title given to anyone exhibiting anything that might be labelled "Male" behaviour generally by middle class people who often dislike all kinds/ any kind of male behaviour: most especially amongst the working class. A term therefore worthless in application outside media-feminist discourse.
I've met many masculine oft violent psychopathic arseholes in my life (coming from the bottom of that social pyramid it's somewhat inevitable...) but they don't promote a "culture" in the broader sense (apart from drug culture...) and are remarkably enough often partnered by women who display what could be called (but isn't...funny that) an equally "toxic femininity".
"it's a bit more varied than that, but generally it's not that they lack empathy, but maybe they have difficulty expressing it, which is very different (for them anyway)..."
Well it was a sentence not an analysis. I think it would be fair to say there's a very strong tendency for autistic people to emotionally short-circuit. If you have any experience at all you will know what I mean.
"When talking about autism, i've been told (i had a recent 'training' session about this fwiw) that multiple 'conditions' are the norm not the exception (i can't remember the wording they used) - so if a person is autistic they are very likely to have other issues (dyslexia/dyspraxia, various mental health issues etc) - this could extend to issues regarding differing gender identities too..."
Yes: multiple conditions are indeed the norm and not the exception but in my view the gender identity thing is more to do with autistic people taking whats being offered to them: as I said many are "struggling to find a path" or means of understanding themselves and indeed where they find themselves in the world. -Unfortunately I really don't think introducing autistic people to an entirely subjective belief system that claims there are "genders" which can be the opposite of biological realities is at all helpful to their plight.
I think you're wrong about toxic masculinity. I think there is such a thing. At the same time, I have enormous respect for males and masculinity, just not the toxic kind.
"Toxic masculinity" certainly was worthless pop psychology in the case I refer to above concerning Younge's attribution of mass shooters to this supposed "culture". As I said at the time:
"...the problem with using Aspergers and Spectrum sufferers as examples for "toxic masculinity" is that (Aspergers, Spectrum disorders) are reckoned to have a neurological base, not a societal one.
Such individuals are often peripheral or excluded from society therefore can't be used to exemplify traits the "theory" considers a toxic part of that society..."
-I brought it up because just as the "societal ills" argument of "Toxic masculinity" was previously (and wrongly) being used by left wing commentators to allocate blame for mass shootings, we now see right wing populists similarly fingering "societal ills" for similar mass shootings:
Benny Johnson @bennyjohnson The Colorado Springs shooter identified as non binary.
The Denver shooter identified as trans.
The Aberdeen shooter identified as trans.
The Nashville shooter identified as trans.
One thing is VERY clear: the modern trans movement is radicalizing activists into terrorists. 11:16 PM · Mar 27, 2023
...What I'm pointing out is that a large proportion of those supposed "trans activists" will similarly be people with neurological based aspergers/autism issues.
-The actual societal issue is the same: American society allows people with serious and indeed often sometimes previously diagnosed conditions involving anger control issues to have exceptionally easy access to semi-automatic weaponry.
This the Xmas card of the Tennessee congressman holding office in the Nashville area where the last shooting took place:
Just when you think Tucker Carlson on Ukraine actually sounds like a reasonable human...we then get this kind of stuff:
Re: Here's the latest...
Posted by Raskolnikov on March 30, 2023, 8:18 am, in reply to "Here's the latest..."
and just like magic, "Release the Manifesto" trends on Twitter with all Phucker's frothing fashy half wits suddenly worried about the shooter's "ideology" and how many more victims of this hateful movement there will be. So many of the tweets linked below repeaet the Carlson talking point of "Trans targetting Christians".
When it's some sieg heiling white racists there is no concern whatsoever about their ideology.
Carlson is ####ing poison; just because he is "right" on the Ukraine proxy war doesn't change all the hateful shit that he does the rest of the time....no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.
on March 28, 2023, 11:54 pm
