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The "Message" - Rejecting Gender Ideology

Posted by Chris Rogers <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Chris+Rogers' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 29, 2023, 4:08 pm

Having spent the past few weeks looking at what's been happening in Scottish politics using Wings Over Scotland as a starting point and branching out from there, I came across a site, written by a documentary maker who was investigating the Trans Issue in the UK, an issue those pushing the crap were not actually interested in discussing, unless they had control over the end product.

Anyhow, having avoided "woke" like the plague, the website is actually a useful information tool with some rather unsettling content: https://whatisawoman.uk/

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Posted by Raskolnikov <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Raskolnikov' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 29, 2023, 5:41 pm, in reply to "The "Message" - Rejecting Gender Ideology"

Very interesting and I made it as far as Trans women being excluded from Lesbianism before my head started flopping around and my eyes started rolling.

It seems fairly reasonable(ish) although they did seem to overquote those five doctors that said it's all fantasy fulfillment (trans/disphoria, etc.). I haven't followed all the links to the videos but it seemed most of them were on the critical side.

The Foucault being a nonce thing is studiously ignored by his disciples it seems:

https://medium.com/queertheory/foucaults-metoo-moment-a672a1d9a869

I will try to get through the rest of it later; thanks for posting it. It is fairly clear for someone who doesn't read much of this sort of theory.

...no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.

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Posted by Raskolnikov <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Raskolnikov' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 29, 2023, 6:04 pm, in reply to "Re: The "Message" - Rejecting Gender Ideology"

I did have the sneaking feeling that they were doing the "tabloid reports on science paper" thing to some extent (where they reference a fairly esoteric scientific paper and then pronounce that "Coffee is good for you" or "Red Wine cures Cancer" when the truth, and the paper, is much more subtle).

I would hope it's more subtle in the case of that Judith Butler quote about "there are some situations where incest isn't traumatic and it's mostly only traumatic because of the sense of shame that is applied to it" (paraphrased). :-o

...no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.

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Posted by Chris Rogers <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Chris+Rogers' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 29, 2023, 6:26 pm, in reply to "Re: The "Message" - Rejecting Gender Ideology"

The interesting point is the fact the the Blog host is a documentary maker who desired to investigate what gender ideology is, meaning there must be two sides if there is to be an understanding, what he encountered was that the Trans ideologues were only interested if the documentary was uncritical and flattering to the cause - once it was apparent it was a genuine investigative study that covered both sides of the debate all pulled out of cooperating, despite much ground work and research being undertaken - its that inability to actually accept vigorous scrutiny that worries - its a good start for anyone who has not looked at the issue seriously.

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Posted by Raskolnikov <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Raskolnikov' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 29, 2023, 7:10 pm, in reply to "Re: The "Message" - Rejecting Gender Ideology"

Yes I read the section where they were all making excuses as to why they couldn't appear in, or even discuss his film or the issues. Their reputation for being intolerant of any opposition seems to be as well deserved as it is ironic.

...no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.

When the self-consumed woke brigade show any signs of geopolitical awakeness/cojones I'll

Posted by Jim_Carlucci <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Jim_Carlucci' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 30, 2023, 7:05 am, in reply to "Re: The "Message" - Rejecting Gender Ideology"

..I'll maybe start giving a damn.

eg. when they begin broadening their geopolitically-comatose discussions with questions such as:

What is a woman? - eg. Jill Stein v Victoria Nuland v Nancy Pelosi v Chelsea Manning

What is a man? - eg. Julian Assange v Hunter Biden v George Bush v John Bolton v Ray McGovern

BTW: why are there so few if any women out there appearing on or hosting Youtube/Rumble etc shows with the likes of Scott Ritter, Mercouris, Glenn Diesen, Jimmy Dore...?

Ironically back in 2001-2004 a certain Amy Goodman(good man?!) was the primary champion of geopolitical/big issue truth - DN! was broadcast worldwide via several free-to-watch satellite TV stations and via their website(with transcripts).
Youtube of course didn't exist until 2005.

Thankfully the only gender-related issues that Goodman & Co understandably ever really saw fit to cover on anything like a regular basis were abortion, abuse and rape of women in the US military...

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Posted by Dovetail Joint <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Dovetail+Joint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 30, 2023, 9:12 am, in reply to "When the self-consumed woke brigade show any signs of geopolitical awakeness/cojones I'll"

I just watched Claire Daley, a fantastically gifted orator. What a person she is. What a woman. She was telling the pure and unvarnished Truth to an empty hall at the European Parliament in Strasbourg.

Just compare her to that Labour lefist wanker John MacDonald or the insipid and supine Jeremy Corbyn. Intellectually and rhetorically she wipes the ####ing floor with both of them.

Why, she asks, for the love of God, would we believe anything that comes out of the mouths of the ruling class and their media about the world, after they've be proven to have lied to us over, and over, and over, again about our reasons for going to war? One would imagine that any self-respecting leftist, would be able to grasp this clear and simple truth, in relation to the war between the West and Russia being fought in Ukraine! But, no, the Labour left imagine it's about freedom and democracy and is a re-run of the ####ing Spanish Civil War! What a truly hopeless shower they all are. Not a working brain cell amongst the lot of them.

SCG are supine, not an intellect among them - NM

Posted by Chris Rogers <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Chris+Rogers' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 30, 2023, 9:42 am, in reply to "Re: When the self-consumed woke brigade show any signs of geopolitical awakeness/cojones I'll"

Goodman was sacked and replaced with Whoopi Golderg - NM

Posted by Chris Rogers <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Chris+Rogers' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 30, 2023, 9:40 am, in reply to "When the self-consumed woke brigade show any signs of geopolitical awakeness/cojones I'll"

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Posted by John Monro <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=John+Monro' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 30, 2023, 10:25 am, in reply to "The "Message" - Rejecting Gender Ideology"

Thanks for posting. NZ had its near riot when Posie Parker came here. Almost every politician and the MSM were stoking up the contention, and encourage a mass protest - the Greens were full on in cancel culture mode to stop her coming. The Nazi slur came her way, even when the Jewish councils in Austria and NZ said this was not true.

I thought what was happening was disgusting yet all the politicians said how proud they were of NZ and of Marama Davidson who let slip some seriously racist comment about white men.

This gender ideology is insane. My wife is incredibly upset about what is happening and the denigration of women who dare to speak up.

I have written a long letter to one of our local MPs who came to a meeting here recently and said at the end how thrilled she'd been with the demonstration (no mention of the violence, one old lady got a fractured orbit from some rabid man). and trying to excuse Davidson's comment. The only sane MP was the right wing David Saymour. My letter is to complain to this MP, a woman, and a Green, and point out a few home truths. Anyone raising children nowadays has to be worried by this perverse agenda.

The more you investigate this phenomenon, the more bizarre it is, and it's most worrying in the perverted indoctrination of children, creepy is hardly an adequate word to explain one's discomfiture.

Its a viral pandemic of a cult phenomenon, a sort of moral panic, like the child ritual abuse panic. Trans people represent about 0.3% of the western population and are a insignificant minority, discriminated against no doubt, but no worse than being black or Maori, or even old, like me!! But somehow or other dare to suggest a trans woman is not an actual woman, it's as if you're threatening her very existence.

At least Lord Coe has his head screwed on and is banning trans women from women's only categories of athletic competition in the World Athletic Federation. That's been a ridiculous fight for years. NZ had a "trans woman" weight lifter in the Olympics, Laurel Hubbard, and woke NZ thought this was brilliant. The scientific fact is that men retain a muscular and skeletal advantage whatever they try to get their testosterone level down to or how much oestrogen they have on board.

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Posted by Dovetail Joint <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Dovetail+Joint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 30, 2023, 5:41 pm, in reply to "Re: The "Message" - Rejecting Gender Ideology"

The only way the gender cult can convince people that changing one's sex is possible, by re-defining what 'sex' really is. That an individual and the surrounding society, can accept that one's sex isn't biological primarily, but is asigned by society; therefore one can reject this and 'choose' whether one is a man or a woman, or something imbetween or both, based not on biology, but on 'feelings' and ideas inside one's head.

"No, I'm not dead so you can't eat me yet!" #Awake

Posted by Gerard <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=GKH' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 31, 2023, 7:42 am, in reply to "Re: The "Message" - Rejecting Gender Ideology"

Do I write gobbledegook? Can I not be understood by my fellow humans? "A physician must always primarily be concerned with causes" It's no use treating cholera if you don't remove the pump-handle to the water supply carrying the disease. JK, Greer and the others are as steeped in the neoliberal narrative as the woke brigade. Recently the "gangs" in our area began exporting a graffiti "tag" to the rest of the city, it is, "Awake!" Now what does that mean? What are they saying? The kids doing this live directly in the airstream from Fawley and its associated industrial estates, areas producing the very enviro-toxins (dioxins and furans etc.), disrupting the endocrine systems of these still growing organisms! Do the kids know about the dangers of incineration and the like? Not to my knowledge (and being one of the foremost researchers and campaigners regarding the nature and extent of the problem in the city I should know), but they are (as they say), "aware"* of something! This is the realpolitik fellas, enough with discussing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, the question should be; "are they any good?"

G

*Following some recent experiences I've been tempted to go around spraying "Mutants" in green underneath the writing of my "self-conscious" friends!

Re: "No, I'm not dead so you can't eat me yet!" #Awake

Posted by Chris Rogers <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Chris+Rogers' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 31, 2023, 8:39 am, in reply to ""No, I'm not dead so you can't eat me yet!" #Awake"

Gerald,

Good of you to remind us doctors should be concerned with causes, thus, it is rather strange many surgeons are advocating radical surgery as a panacea to young adults having issues with sexuality/gender/status.

So, as with you, I'd like to know how we have so many persons claiming they are transgender, or whatever else they desire to call themselves. In the UK, on university campus's the issue did not exist during my own time in HE utilising three institutions in both England and Wales up to 1996 - indeed, the big issue within the LBGT community was AIDS and helping students come to terms with their own sexuality, which was undertaken with sensitivity - I must say, it was all very inclusive and, persons could also have some fun.

I think 1996 is important here, because its when a viable treatment to combat HIV became widely available, meaning fear of intercourse was reduced greatly - Christ, they scared the pants off us in the 80's, i.e., not only HIV, but the threat of nuclear war.

Compromises..

Posted by Gerard <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=GKH' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 31, 2023, 11:16 am, in reply to "Re: "No, I'm not dead so you can't eat me yet!" #Awake"

It's the direct effect of the endocrine disrupting hormones our neoliberal admins continue to allow to be produced..all is artifice..in their ignorance and fear they want to pretend that the liberal status-quo will continue always (a sort of Thanotic death spiral), they simply won't take the decisions to alter course...the children suffer...incineration, nuclear power, PBAs etc. liberal compromises...it is no wonder that they disappear up their own backsides..they (literally), spew non-sense..

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