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Mercouris: Russia Storms Last Bakhmut Positions, Bombards Ukraine; US Seeks Frozen Conflict...

Posted by Ken Waldron <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Ken+Waldron' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 19, 2023, 8:09 pm

Russia Storms Last Bakhmut Positions, Bombards Ukraine; US Seeks Frozen Conflict, West Prepares F16s

Re: Mercouris: Russia Storms Last Bakhmut Positions, Bombards Ukraine; US Seeks Frozen Conflict...

Posted by t <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=TomskiD' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 19, 2023, 9:38 pm, in reply to "Mercouris: Russia Storms Last Bakhmut Positions, Bombards Ukraine; US Seeks Frozen Conflict..."

Not sure if AM is right here: 'Ukraine is not telling the full story about damages to Patriot missiles to US' .. or words to that effect. I find it inconceivable that the US instructors who are with the batteries would not tell Pentagon the full story. But anyway .. as AM says

Re: Mercouris: Russia Storms Last Bakhmut Positions, Bombards Ukraine; US Seeks Frozen Conflict...

Posted by Ken Waldron <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Ken+Waldron' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 19, 2023, 10:09 pm, in reply to "Re: Mercouris: Russia Storms Last Bakhmut Positions, Bombards Ukraine; US Seeks Frozen Conflict..."

"I find it inconceivable that the US instructors who are with the batteries would not tell Pentagon the full story."

-The US claims they are back in operation apparently but Will Schryver has some interesting notes:

"🤔There have been unconfirmed rumors swirling since yesterday that the remaining Patriot battery in Ukraine is to be (or already has been) evacuated from the country.

IF true, this would not only seem to confirm the Russian MoD's specific claims of the first battery's effective destruction, but also suggests to me the likelihood that the Russians are employing some sort of ECM means that renders the system acutely vulnerable to attack.

Recall that the Pentagon long resisted the political pressure to send Patriot systems to Ukraine. The comparatively easy destruction of the first battery and the resultant damage to US military prestige would seem to explain their reluctance.

As I have long argued, the perception of US military supremacy is the Pentagon's most treasured asset. And now that myth has been appreciably eroded by the apparent humiliation of the supposedly mighty Patriot air defense system in Ukraine."

https://twitter.com/imetatronink/status/1659545567121522688?cxt=HHwWgIDSjdL58YcuAAAA

Re: Mercouris: Russia Storms Last Bakhmut Positions, Bombards Ukraine; US Seeks Frozen Conflict...

Posted by t <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=TomskiD' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 19, 2023, 11:38 pm, in reply to "Re: Mercouris: Russia Storms Last Bakhmut Positions, Bombards Ukraine; US Seeks Frozen Conflict..."

At some point, we shall find that the myth has been appreciably eroded by the apparent humiliation of the supposedly mighty Patriot air defense system in Ukraine.". Oops.

The myth crumbled in Iraq against Scuds; later shooting down allied NATOistan jets and failing again

Posted by sashimi <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=sashimi' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 19, 2023, 11:53 pm, in reply to "Re: Mercouris: Russia Storms Last Bakhmut Positions, Bombards Ukraine; US Seeks Frozen Conflict..."

against the Houthis!

A US/ NATO money scam...

Posted by Ken Waldron <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Ken+Waldron' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 20, 2023, 2:07 am, in reply to "The myth crumbled in Iraq against Scuds; later shooting down allied NATOistan jets and failing again"

Just like the F-35: that unreliable dangerous & expensive heap of junk which costs (in 2012 prices mind!) a minimum of $33,000 to keep it in the air... per hour but worse.
Think of the King of Siam's old "white elephant" which he gave to uppity princes to keep them down because the necessary rituals and expenses were intended to bankrupt the owner...but hey! it's just such a "great honour" for an ally to receive them:
" A possession that its owner cannot dispose of, and whose cost, particularly that of maintenance, is out of proportion to its usefulness."

The US (Raytheon) of course simply doesn't want anyone to know just how useless so they can keep on shipping their expensive elephants to the other silly courtiers of the Potus. I really wouldn't be surprised if they did pull the other out and scuttled off with their missile between their legs whilst the Corporate media cover the retreat with ludicrous claims of great success.

The depth of its failure is illustrated in recent events in Ukraine and compared to the F-35 its truly exponential. Even putting aside the claimed Russian destruction of a system for the moment, if we focus on what we actually know for a certainty there were 32 missiles launched in two minutes to apparently no effect...with no air explosions whatsoever.

-Any system that can burn up at least $100 million of its precious armaments in less than two minutes to no effect is an absolute failure.

Again, this just illustrates the stark difference between a Military Industrial Complex configured for profit like the US and one like the Russian more configured for actual warfare.

F-16s next....nm

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 20, 2023, 7:53 am, in reply to "A US/ NATO money scam..."

Clio the cat, ? July 1997 - 1 May 2016
Kira the cat, ? ? 2010 - 3 August 2018
Jasper the Ruffian cat ? ? ? - 4 November 2021

BBC on F-16s

Posted by t <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=TomskiD' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 20, 2023, 12:51 pm, in reply to "F-16s next....nm"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65656356

Re: BBC on F-16s

Posted by psingh <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=psingh' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 20, 2023, 2:26 pm, in reply to "BBC on F-16s"

I've sent my invoice to the Pentagon, I am only charging them £250m for a packet of paper clips. The beauty of it is I've not even sent them the paper clips.

Re: BBC on F-16s

Posted by Dovetail Joint <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Dovetail+Joint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 20, 2023, 4:35 pm, in reply to "Re: BBC on F-16s"

I wonder... if anyone can remember a time, a war, that wasn't supported by the entire mainstream media vertually with question?

It's kind of odd, that all our wars are more-or-less 'good' ones, compared to non-western actors who go to war.

'Tis a bizarre twist of fate

Verily

Clio the cat, ? July 1997 - 1 May 2016
Kira the cat, ? ? 2010 - 3 August 2018
Jasper the Ruffian cat ? ? ? - 4 November 2021

August 2022 - Chinese Su-35s blind the radar of Taiwanese F-16s, forcing a retreat:

Posted by sashimi <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=sashimi' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 21, 2023, 4:58 pm, in reply to "F-16s next....nm"

https://eurasiantimes.com/su-35-fighter-jets-prove-their-taiwanese-f-16/

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