Russia-Ukraine war live: Kyiv claims it has proof Russia blew up Kakhovka dam
Transcript of conversation Ukraine claims proves Russia blew up Nova Kakhovka dam
Ukraine’s domestic security service (SBU) said earlier on Friday it had intercepted a telephone call proving a Russian “sabotage group” blew up the Kakhovka hydroelectric station and dam in southern Ukraine.
A one-and-a-half minute audio clip on its Telegram channel of the alleged conversation featured two unidentified men who appeared to be discussing the fallout from the disaster in Russian.
In the conversation the first speaker starts by saying: “News. Yesterday there was a video in the Telegram channel – a soldier was standing there, his face covered, in his uniform. And he says there is no flooding, that people are living normally. And behind him there is a window and you can see knee-deep water.”
The second speaker says: “It’s funny. Is it about the fact that the hydroelectric power plant was destroyed?”
The conversation continued:
Speaker one: Yeah. The main problem is that the hydropower plant cools their nuclear reactor.
Speaker two: That’s fine. They did it to themselves. It’ll blow up and that’s it.
Speaker one: So our guys did it. It’s not them, it’s ours.
Speaker two: Really, it was ours? They said that the Khokhols [derogatory term for Ukrainians] blew it up.
Speaker one: They didn’t blow it up. Our saboteur group is there. They wanted to cause fear with this dam. It did not go according to the plan. More than they planned.
Speaker two: Yeah, well, naturally. It’s gonna be like Chornobyl, right?
Speaker one: Built in the 1950s. It went down fast, it went down.
Reuters reports the SBU did not offer further details of the conversation or its participants. It said it had opened a criminal investigation into war crimes and “ecocide”.
“The invaders wanted to blackmail Ukraine by blowing up the dam and staged a man-made disaster in the south of our country,” it said in a statement.
Russia and the officials it has imposed in occupied Ukraine have blamed Kyiv for destroying the dam but have offered no evidence, and varying conflicting explanations.
Well I don't know about you, but I'm convinced. An unsourced, audio clip of two unidentified men talking in a completely natural way about who did what when, almost perfectly designed to cast guilt on the "Russian saboteurs". Case closed. I'm the valiant investigative media will be picking this apart shortly......
...no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.
This ecocide as a continuation of Russias unprovoked full-scale invasion of Ukraine is yet another atrocity which leaves the world lost for words. Our eyes are once again on Russia who must be held accountable for their crimes. -- https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1666885580536307725
Re: How dare he?!.nm
Posted by Sir Michael Mouse on June 9, 2023, 12:56 pm, in reply to "Thunberging away:"
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Re: Thunberging away:
Posted by Ken Waldron on June 9, 2023, 4:01 pm, in reply to "Thunberging away:"
The choice of words is clone like and that can only be deliberate.
Oh..."Unprovoked": As one commentator below puts it:
"The way people add the word “unprovoked” ignoring the 6 years before the invasion."
The adjective is of course used because the media have made it a prerequisite for any discussion. It's an Overton window virtue signal showing shes "onside" with US/NATO . This is underlined by the apriori assumption of Russian guilt: no questions.
Then the move on to the travesty of Russian punishment for such "crimes': a giant leap from a mere "whodunnit"... we already have the culprit in the frame and need to talk punishment. No mention of context either: that queue of unpunished international crimes by the US/ Nato waiting under the hush carpet...nor indeed of that other huge environmental crime specifically to do with this war: the Nordstream release of massive amounts of Methane gas directly into the atmosphere which counts as one of the biggest ever offenses against the planet. On that, as George Galloway points out, where was Greta with the whodunnit ? the condemnation? the certainties? the calls for punishment? Greta Thunberg News (don't know is she controls this) does mention it and links an article where it tells us: " the Nord Stream gas pipelines under the Baltic Sea sprung massive leaks this week, spewing out tons of methane into the water and atmosphere"
Get that? Soft-soap of the century: it kinda just, emmm...sort-off "..sprung massive leaks" -The unavoidable discussion of some kind of culpability in the body text roughly "springs" about as far as Russia.
I've always been somewhat suspicious of the Greta thing: its nothing to do with her specifically: just a general aversion to cheap manipulation of which the lowest level is the use of children, cats and dogs to get people onside for any cause and the above makes me feel somewhat vindicated in being cruelly suspicious.
The Greens in Scotland, UK... Europe, well it didn't take them all long to get in line with the establishment over Ukraine and show themselves to be empty coats or utter hypocrites: it's somewhat shocking to see these earth-loving environmental women: the proposed models and spokespeople for the new age, bursting forth from the dry green chrysalis metamorphosed like Annalena Baerbock, into the most toxic Warmonger butterflies of all.
Re: Thunberging away:
Posted by Dovetail Joint on June 9, 2023, 5:39 pm, in reply to "Thunberging away:"
The authenticity of Greta Thunberg... cannot be verified. She has issues. Separating fantasy from reality. Her childlike view of the world and how to change it, and the harsh structure of the Capitalist 'marketplace'. I feel somewhat sorry for her, another gilded pawn on the chessboard. If only she had a more accurate and refined concept of Power.
Thunberg, eco-imperialist peddling Western narrative as usual - nm
Posted by psingh on June 9, 2023, 6:37 pm, in reply to "Thunberging away:"
Nm
It seems likely, from the statements she put out. Logical. nm
Given the unthinking credulity of the reporting up to now this almost seems like the hack is trying to suggest some doubt in this instance:
The authenticity of the call could not be verified. The SBU statement did not identify the speakers, nor indicate the time or place the call was supposed to have taken place. An SBU source said the call was intercepted on Thursday and that more details could not be provided as the recording was part of a criminal investigation.
Ukrainian officials have expressed frustration that Kyiv’s account of the dam’s destruction, that it was blown up from inside by Russian forces, has not so far been confirmed by US, UK or other intelligence agencies...no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.
on June 9, 2023, 12:05 pm