Dual citizenship of IDF soldiers squashed (?) recently by Change ..
Posted by t on April 20, 2024, 2:16 am
A comment from MoA:
@Exile 91
"To join the IDF you have to be an Israeli citizen. Jews living abroad who are not Israeli citizens can make Aliyah (immigrate to Israel), get their automatic citizenship, granted to all Jews by the 1951 Law of Return, and then join (in fact they have to join the army even if they don’t ask for it, as any Israeli citizen does).
Non Jews and non Israelis - want to help? No foreign legion, sorry."
Quora
"Petition:
British citizens who fight in the Israeli army to face criminal prosecution on their return to UK.
Anybody who has broken the fourth protocol of the Geneva Convention deserves to face justice in court for their crimes.
It is also a crime under British law for a British national to serve in a foreign army under the 'Foreign Enlistment Act 1870' making it a criminal offence.
These individuals need to be arrested and face prosecution in British courts on their return to the UK.
Government responded 2014:
Section 4 of the Foreign Enlistment Act 1870 makes it an offence for a British subject to enlist in the military of a foreign state at war with another foreign state with which the UK is at peace. That prohibition does not extend, however, to enlistment in a foreign government’s forces which are engaged in a civil war or combating terrorism or internal uprisings. The Occupied Palestinian Territories are not currently recognised as a state by the UK. Israel has taken military action against individuals and groups within Gaza but has not made a declaration of war. In these circumstances the 1870 Act would not apply.
It is the UK government’s longstanding position that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies to the Occupied Palestinian Territories, and that Israel is an occupying power under that convention. The UK has urged both sides of the conflict to respect international humanitarian law and the laws of armed conflict."
In other words because Palestine is not recognized as a state, own nationals serving in IDF are not partaking in a war.
The 4th Geneva convention primarily concerns civilian protection during foreign occupation. Note western governments consistently refuse to acknowledge that war crimes are occuring. If they did they would be obliged to prosecute their own nationals participating.
No idea on the numbers of those migrating to obtain "nationality" or join IDF due to current conflict.
However one thing seems clear, those that would be in line to be prosecuted (now dual nationals) are going to have the support of, and support, any lobby that tries to avoid "Israel" or IDF being tried for war crimes. Those lobbies by extension will be looking to downplay or sideline any reporting or presentation that shows war crimes to have occured.
So dual nationals in IDF are an active part of the equation, no matter what status their participation is held at.
Just browsed over the topic, there are various pieces on this depending on country but only included the most obvious above.
Speaking of the Geneva Convention this fat blob of lying shit at the State Department couldn't answer a simple question (Does it apply to Palestinians?) and absolutely shit the bed when the journalist wouldn't take his non-answer as an answer.
They really need to start storming the stage and putting a beating on these fuckers like James Caan in "The Godfather", bin lid and all....no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.
Arguably, a failed prosecution is better than no prosecution at all. On the one hand a failed prosecution may encourage others to go, but perhaps more likely it would bring adverse publicity, legal costs, long term stress etc., to the individual that he/she would prefer to avoid.
As they say in the US, “innocent until proven broke”.
on April 20, 2024, 2:16 am