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'Possibly the vilest article published by the UK media in living memory'

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 15, 2024, 5:26 pm

E-mail from Tony G.

As Jonathan Cook, a former Guardian/Observer journalist wrote, the above piece [x] by Howard Jacobson in last week's Observer was possibly the vilest thing that has appeared in the media in living memory.

That it comes from the Guardian should make anyone contributing to their appeal feel ashamed. They are a racist, neo-liberal rag.

I sent a letter with over a thousand signatories to them but they ignored it.

I have sent them a follow-up to the email addresses below and you may wish to endorse my comments

observer.letters@observer.co.uk, rory.foster@guardian.co.uk, Guardian letters , Jonathan Freedland , Jonathan Freedland , jonathan.freedland@gmail.com, jomathan.freedland@gmail.com, Jonathan Freedland , Katharine Viner , kath.viner@guardian.com, kath.viner@theguardian.com

Dear Guardian,

I did not think for one moment that the Observer would print a letter from over a thousand signatories. However it was worth giving you a chance to make amends.

Don't think that printing 2 letters in response to Howard Jacobson's vile article is an adequate response. It is not.

As Jonathan Cook (a former Observer/Guardian journalist) wrote it is 'possibly the vilest article published by the UK media in living memory'.

Do you think that if you had an article on the Holocaust then that requires a 'balanced' article from David Irving, a holocaust denier?

You and your colleagues are despicable. As Northern Gaza is starved literally and people in tents are burnt alive, you are still pursuing the 'antisemitism' smear agenda for all its worth.

Try to get this round your thick skulls. If allegations of child slaughter in Gaza are a 'blood libel' then that surely means that the ancient anti-semitic blood libel must have some truth to it, since there is no doubt that Israel is deliberately murdering Palestinian children.

Yours in disgust,

Tony Greenstein

The last working-class hero in England.

Clio the cat, ? July 1997 - 1 May 2016
Kira the cat, ? ? 2010 - 3 August 2018
Jasper the Ruffian cat ? ? ? - 4 November 2021

Re: 'Possibly the vilest article published by the UK media in living memory'

Posted by RaskolnikovX <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Raskolnikov' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 15, 2024, 6:00 pm, in reply to "'Possibly the vilest article published by the UK media in living memory'"

He was interviewed (and somewhat exposed) in the New Yorker. The vile filth he spewed up for the fraudian isn't going down too well....

https://x.com/SanaSaeed/status/1846035607295807594

...no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.

Thanks .

Posted by Ken Waldron <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Ken+Waldron' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 15, 2024, 6:32 pm, in reply to "Re: 'Possibly the vilest article published by the UK media in living memory'"

He comes across as pathetic.
An exponent of the "Yorim ve bochim" :" Shoot and cry" school of self-pity.

"Just look what you made him have to say..."

-I despise him even more after reading this.

Nitter version ...

Posted by Ken Waldron <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Ken+Waldron' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 15, 2024, 7:13 pm, in reply to "Re: 'Possibly the vilest article published by the UK media in living memory'"

For the excellent comments:

https://nitter.poast.org/IChotiner/status/1845910362819875273#m

Give a man a shovel and just watch him dig! nm

Posted by Der <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Der' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 16, 2024, 2:55 am, in reply to "Re: 'Possibly the vilest article published by the UK media in living memory'"

For the record, these were the letter they printed

Posted by RaskolnikovX <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Raskolnikov' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 15, 2024, 6:06 pm, in reply to "'Possibly the vilest article published by the UK media in living memory'"

https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/msg/1728798041.html

...no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.

Re: For the record, these were the letter they printed - a thought on your postscript

Posted by John Monro <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=John+Monro' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 15, 2024, 8:04 pm, in reply to "For the record, these were the letter they printed"

Dear Mr RaskolnikovX

You postscript all your contributions to this site with the words: ...no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.

I wonder if it isn't past time to add another party to your postscript viz. the Labour Party?

I write this because I have for a while, since its leadership by Kier Starmer, found it difficult to discern any significant difference between the two. Perhaps you'd agree?

Thanks for your postings and contributions over time.

Regards

Dr John K Monro. New Zealand.

Re: For the record, these were the letter they printed - a thought on your postscript

Posted by RaskolnikovX <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Raskolnikov' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 15, 2024, 8:52 pm, in reply to "Re: For the record, these were the letter they printed - a thought on your postscript "

I do agree. Starmer's Labour are not the party I grew up with. Just on Gaza/Israel their conduct has been unforgiveable, never mind all the other broken promises. I detest Starmer with the same passion as in Bevan's quote.

Other than casting a conscience vote I am, to all intents and purposes, disenfranchised. A sadly common predicament in the "one-party duopolies" or as Galloway had it, "Two cheeks of the same arse". First past the post has to go.

...no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.

"First past the post has to go."

Posted by Morrissey <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Morrissey' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 15, 2024, 9:54 pm, in reply to "Re: For the record, these were the letter they printed - a thought on your postscript "

Unfortunately, Mixed member proportional voting (MMP) doesn't necessarily lead to anything worthwhile either. New Zealand abolished FPP 31 years ago, and the same old politicians are as entrenched as ever they were. Of our 120 members of parliament, only four have spoken out against the genocide in Gaza: all of them are young women.

Our MMP governments have sent troops to Iraq and Afghanistan, and our navy is part of the U.S.-mandated effort to attack Houthi R2P forces.

Our brilliant Royal New Zealand Navy...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-15/samoa-villagers-compensation-new-zealand-manawanui-sinking/104468612

Four far-right politicians have recently been elected in Ireland under proportional representation!

Posted by Der <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Der' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 15, 2024, 11:43 pm, in reply to ""First past the post has to go.""

Re: Four far-right politicians have recently been elected in Ireland under pr

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 16, 2024, 12:23 pm, in reply to "Four far-right politicians have recently been elected in Ireland under proportional representation! "

Democracy babe, deal with it. Get the vote out next time.

The last working-class hero in England.

Clio the cat, ? July 1997 - 1 May 2016
Kira the cat, ? ? 2010 - 3 August 2018
Jasper the Ruffian cat ? ? ? - 4 November 2021

Re: Four far-right politicians have recently been elected in Ireland under pr

Posted by Ken Waldron <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Ken+Waldron' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 16, 2024, 1:34 pm, in reply to "Re: Four far-right politicians have recently been elected in Ireland under pr"

Democracy babe, deal with it. Get the vote out next time.

-Besides being patently obvious and indeed the very reason most of us are here...it never seems to sink in:

You can't have a democracy even with Proportional Representation so long as the media is still allowed to be owned by a coterie of billionaires corporations and government who frame the debate and create the Overton window of "acceptable" opinion: acceptable to them that is, which then become the policies of the parties and individuals that we are "allowed" to vote for.

Re: Four far-right politicians have recently been elected in Ireland under pr

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 18, 2024, 10:35 pm, in reply to "Re: Four far-right politicians have recently been elected in Ireland under pr"

Censorship isn't the answer to censorship.

The last working-class hero in England.

Clio the cat, ? July 1997 - 1 May 2016
Kira the cat, ? ? 2010 - 3 August 2018
Jasper the Ruffian cat ? ? ? - 4 November 2021

Re: Four far-right politicians have recently been elected in Ireland under pr

Posted by Ken Waldron <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Ken+Waldron' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 19, 2024, 5:37 pm, in reply to "Re: Four far-right politicians have recently been elected in Ireland under pr"

"Censorship isn't the answer to censorship."

-A real bullshitters reply: it's obvious I'm talking about ownership.

Democracy? Where? "Get the vote out" - thus spaketh the anarchist!! nm

Posted by Der <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Der' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 16, 2024, 1:51 pm, in reply to "Re: Four far-right politicians have recently been elected in Ireland under pr"

How bitter, how twisted

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 18, 2024, 12:46 am, in reply to "Democracy? Where? "Get the vote out" - thus spaketh the anarchist!! nm"

Ireland has an election system a damn sight more democratic than here.

The last working-class hero in England.

Clio the cat, ? July 1997 - 1 May 2016
Kira the cat, ? ? 2010 - 3 August 2018
Jasper the Ruffian cat ? ? ? - 4 November 2021

This was an important thread n you've side tracked it.

Posted by Der <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Der' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 15, 2024, 11:47 pm, in reply to "Re: For the record, these were the letter they printed - a thought on your postscript "

Regrettably, I've joined in myself.

Re: This was an important thread n you've side tracked it.

Posted by RaskolnikovX <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Raskolnikov' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 16, 2024, 6:29 am, in reply to "This was an important thread n you've side tracked it."

Let's not forget the purpose of the thread; to remember what a vile racist Howard Jacobson is.

Everytime I come back to that article via some new condemnation of it, I have to pinch myself to make sure it's real and not some fever nightmare. The fact that he tried to repeat it in the New Yorker interview really shows how far gone he is. This should always be the thing that follows any mention of his name in the future although I'd prefer it if he wasn't in the media at all in the future.

...no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.

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