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That's enough! Scahill will definitely be banned forever from MSNBC.

Posted by Morrissey on October 21, 2024, 9:01 pm

That's enough!

Posted by Keith-264 on October 21, 2024, 11:23 pm, in reply to "That's enough! Scahill will definitely be banned forever from MSNBC."

They're discussing the state of Sinwar's body for fuck's sake. Don't these septic bastards have any dignity?

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Re: That's enough! Scahill will definitely be banned forever from MSNBC.

Posted by Mark Doran on October 22, 2024, 11:23 am, in reply to "That's enough! Scahill will definitely be banned forever from MSNBC."

Is this the same Scahill whose determination to reinforce Western narratives justifying the dirty war on Syria led him to join Owen Jones in the fight to prevent Sister Agnes Mariam appearing at a 2013 London anti-war event? The end result of which pressure was that she withdrew -- meaning the event took place without a single participant who actually fucking lived in Syria.

Scahill is just the usual faux-dissisent media scum wannabe. To be avoided.

M.

Can't bear more than 15 seconds of that woman's voice

Posted by scrabb on October 22, 2024, 10:13 pm, in reply to "Re: That's enough! Scahill will definitely be banned forever from MSNBC."

Like a lot of young American women she talks back in her throat with a guttural grating growl that is very unpleasant on the ear. She needs elocution lessons to make her voice humanly tolerable. At the moment a broadcasting disaster.

Re: Can't bear more than 15 seconds of that woman's voice

Posted by Ed on October 22, 2024, 10:18 pm, in reply to "Can't bear more than 15 seconds of that woman's voice"

I think that's what they call "Vocal Fry" and I can't bloody stand it either.
There have been plenty of tv programmes and films I have wanted to watch but as soon as I hear any of the actresses croaking like that I can't do it.
An awful modernish trend.

I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for that disappointing news.

Posted by Morrissey on October 23, 2024, 5:50 am, in reply to "Re: That's enough! Scahill will definitely be banned forever from MSNBC."

My estimation of him has been severely tarnished.

Re: I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for that disappointing news.

Posted by Mark Doran on October 23, 2024, 8:45 am, in reply to "I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for that disappointing news."

Isn't this just the usual thing, mon vieux? They all want to be seen as 'courageous disidents', yet when push comes to shove they snap back into place and support the really big Empire narratives...?

Mark D.

Re: I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for that disappointing news.

Posted by RaskolnikovX on October 23, 2024, 9:36 am, in reply to "Re: I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for that disappointing news."

That episode was not good and should always be taken into account, but to use that one incident to claim Scahill "supports the really big Empire narratives" is absurd and is in direct contradiction to his body of work, particularly on the GWOT, Iraq, Syria, etc.

The corporate media are complicit in the Gaza genocide.
Never forget what they did. Never forgive them for it.

Re: I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for that disappointing news.

Posted by Mark Doran on October 23, 2024, 12:28 pm, in reply to "Re: I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for that disappointing news."

The man's a fool -- or, should I say, a willing tool:

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“I believe Bashar al-Assad is a war criminal,” said Jeremy. “But I don’t think the US or the West has a right to overthrow governments.
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Typical virtue tourist: were he more than that, he'd have the second point first, and recognise that the first point wouldn't be there without it.

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“The philosophy of some on the left is that my enemy’s enemy is my friend. It’s a bankrupt philosophy that leads people to endorse human rights abuses.”
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Total pillock. The fundamental evil here is imperialism -- which gets nothing but assistance from boutique dissidents pointing the finger at those desperatly resisting it.

Crap of this kind isn't even worth debating at this stage in the game. Scahill is muck.

M.

Re: I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for that disappointing news.

Posted by RaskolnikovX on October 23, 2024, 12:51 pm, in reply to "Re: I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for that disappointing news."

Not very convincing and almost Judean People's Front levels of caricature.

How in any way, shape or form do "Dirty Wars", "Blackwater" or the "The Assassination Complex" "support the really big Empire narratives"? That's right. They don't.

The corporate media are complicit in the Gaza genocide.
Never forget what they did. Never forgive them for it.

Re: I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for that disappointing news.

Posted by RaskolnikovX on October 23, 2024, 12:59 pm, in reply to "Re: I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for that disappointing news."

or this

https://theintercept.com/2024/02/17/joe-biden-rafah-israel-gaza-bombs/

or this

https://theintercept.com/2024/05/08/israel-rafah-palestine-evacuation-children-unicef/

or this interview with Hamas members

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/on-the-record-with-hamas

No.

The corporate media are complicit in the Gaza genocide.
Never forget what they did. Never forgive them for it.

on Imperialism

Posted by RaskolnikovX on October 23, 2024, 1:08 pm, in reply to "Re: I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for that disappointing news."

https://theintercept.com/2019/02/10/intercepted-podcast-vijay-prashad-venezuela-india/

One of scores of articles.

The corporate media are complicit in the Gaza genocide.
Never forget what they did. Never forgive them for it.

Re: on Imperialism

Posted by Mark Doran on October 23, 2024, 6:01 pm, in reply to "on Imperialism"

'on Imperialism'...

"JS: Well, but in fairness, Russia has its own imperial agenda as well. It’s not like Russia is only acting in the human interest of the world. I mean, Russia clearly is facing down NATO encroachment on the part of the United States. The U.S. moving further and further to the east. You have the potential, and it’s been there for some time, to have an all-out hot war between U.S. and Russian forces in Syria. Certainly, that would be the case if the U.S. did escalate even a little bit in Iran. But, let’s be clear here, though. I mean, Russia is not an ideological actor trying to stand up for the Global South. They’re also acting on their own imperial interests that occasionally aligned with the agenda that you’re describing there."

-- If you can't see what this stinking pile of puke is doing, then by all means go on eating the chunks.

M.

Re: on Imperialism

Posted by RaskolnikovX on October 23, 2024, 7:02 pm, in reply to "Re: on Imperialism"

Another absurd overreaction to one line in a long discussion which was the initial point; his large, decades long body of work makes it a nonsense to say he supports the really big Empire narratives.

Even in the quote above he describes U.S. imperialism accurately so presumably you disagree with his idea that Russia acts in its own interests rather than being a global altruistic state. Calling it "imperial" is debatable which they then go on to do.

Painting him as a "boutique dissident pointing the finger at those desperatly resisting it [imperialism]" is just laughably wrong and his work proves it.

We'll have to agree to differ but here's Pilger mentioning Scahill; he must have been fooled too...

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2013/9/22/q-and-a-the-modern-day-heroes-of-investigative-journalism/

The corporate media are complicit in the Gaza genocide.
Never forget what they did. Never forgive them for it.

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