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@ Rask on US elections and other bits (Larry J w/Nima)

Posted by t <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=TomskiD' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 15, 2024, 5:26 pm

@ 21:52 talks about that 2016 election and the number of voters. Also some interesting info on Iran assassination of Trump .. which was a complete BS. Worth a spin.

Re: @ Rask on US elections and other bits (Larry J w/Nima)

Posted by RaskolnikovX <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Raskolnikov' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 15, 2024, 6:14 pm, in reply to "@ Rask on US elections and other bits (Larry J w/Nima)"

He's doing the same "mistake" they all have; says Harris got 66 million votes when as of now she's at 73.1 mill.

So the 81 mill to 73 mill drop is not anywhere near as extreme as the 81 to 66 they keep claiming.

And of course no evidence other than wildly inaccurate figures which there isn't any innocent excuse for now.

Interested to hear about the "assassin" although I have no doubt Iran had as much to do with that as I have to do with Margot Robbie.

...no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.

Re: @ Rask on US elections and other bits (Larry J w/Nima)

Posted by RaskolnikovX <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Raskolnikov' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 15, 2024, 6:22 pm, in reply to "Re: @ Rask on US elections and other bits (Larry J w/Nima)"

Just for the sake of completeness:

2020

Dem 81,283,501
Rep 74,223,975

155.5m

2024

Dem 73,141,671 (-~1.1 mill on 2020)
Rep 76,075,052 (+~1.8 mill on 2020)

149.1m (-6.4 mill on 2020)

Nothing like the screaming anomalyy they keep claiming.

...no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.

Apologies for the error!

Posted by RaskolnikovX <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Raskolnikov' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 15, 2024, 7:35 pm, in reply to "Re: @ Rask on US elections and other bits (Larry J w/Nima)"

Rushing and looked at the wrong line.

So Dems -8mill on 2020

Which is almost exactly what you get from the +1.8 m for Repubs and the -6m on turnout; 8m voters either going to Trump or not bothering at all.

...no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.

No problem ..

Posted by t <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=TomskiD' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 15, 2024, 10:01 pm, in reply to "Apologies for the error!"

I don't fancy getting into the weeds on this one. I used to do statistics, but no more. I'll wait for other people to look at it and report. After seeing the graph by Simplicius I recalled my 'Eureka' : ) moment, thinking it does not smell right, but I could be wrong : /. Larry J, although an analyst, perhaps fell into the same trap as myself.

Not knowing much about US elections despite reading that book by Greg Pallast, and assuming your figures are correct, the figure of -6 million voters i.e. not voting seems significant. It's possible one might want to examine that to see if there has been voter 'suppression' .. perhaps .. and compare etc. I'll report if I see something more promising.

Re: No problem ..

Well that's another factor which I missed out above; supression. As Palast says (and tends to solely concentrate on lately where I would rather he widen his focus) there is a lot of this going on. I doubt it accounts for many millions of votes but I wouldn't be surprised if it was making a significant difference in a lot of places. Georgia is the poster child for this particular style of election frigging.

The figures above did come from Wiki so the usual caveats apply but they seem to tally. The BBC has them slightly higher now:

Dem 73,747,680
Rep 76,444,504

so now they are only 5.5mill down on 2020 which really makes it easy to find that figure by combining "defection" from D to R, third-party, supression and apathy.

I guess we'll see if anything else comes out, but if they use accurate figures it doesn't look so wildy out of step.

...no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.

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