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Is Starmer Effing crazy or what?

Posted by scrabb <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=scrabb' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 14, 2025, 1:50 pm

Guardian --

Ukraine on ‘irreversible path’ to Nato membership, Starmer tells Zelenskyy

On the same theme, I watched some of Question Time last night with George Monbiat (interestingly not billed as a "Guardian" journalist and commentator) who was gung-ho for supplying more and more (in fact endless and unlimited) weapons to Ukraine. He labelled one of the panel "Chamberain" for giving in to Putin and warned the audience that if Russia invaded the UK and took over Hampshire, Kent and Essex there would be some appeasers who would say it was OK so long as it went no further.

I think this man has a serious mental deficiency.

What I do find astonishing is that someone as "prominent" as Monbiat doesn't know or certainly never mentions the reason why Russia "invaded a sovereign nation" (as Monbiat put it) was to prevent Nato missiles being installed within close range of Moscow. The US wouldn't stand for it in 1962 and ditto Russia today. Yet Monbiat fears if we don't defeat Russia they will march into Rumania, Poland, and continue westwards.

There was really no difference at all between Monbiat's utterances and the most rabid right-wing blood-thirsty warmonger and rabble-rouser.

Has it always been thus?

Re: Is Starmer Effing crazy or what?

Posted by RaskolnikovX <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Raskolnikov' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 14, 2025, 3:43 pm, in reply to "Is Starmer Effing crazy or what?"

I saw that clip of Moonbat you mentioned on Twitter and had pretty much the same reaction. I've got no time for the shitbag racist scum at GBNews, one of whom his remarks were addressed to, but it's so far wide of the truth it's pretty dismal.

I haven't watched QT for getting on for decades but usually see clips when the weekly cry for that Tory fucker who chairs it to be sacked goes up.

I recently read his book, "Captive State" which was written a fair while ago, but it was pretty good. I've never really followed him that closely but others here have, and he definitely knows which live rails not to tread on and toes the various fraudian/establishment lines completely.

The corporate media are complicit in the Gaza genocide.
Never forget what they did. Never forgive them for it.

Re: Is Starmer Effing crazy or what?

Posted by scrabb <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=scrabb' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 14, 2025, 4:20 pm, in reply to "Re: Is Starmer Effing crazy or what?"

Thanks Rask. I didn't see the start of QT so I had no idea who the anti-migrant bloke was or that he's one of the saliva-dripping GBNews crowd. Like you, I stopped watching QT years ago but still dip into it when there's nothing else on. Bruce is a piece of work, isn't she? So much the perfect BBC android she might have been assembled and programmed for the role.

If the Russians invaded the UK I would welcome them as liberators (nm)

Posted by Ian M <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Ian+M' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 14, 2025, 6:05 pm, in reply to "Is Starmer Effing crazy or what?"

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http://storybythethroat.wordpress.com/tell-ask-listen/

Meh...

Posted by Ian M <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Ian+M' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 14, 2025, 10:35 pm, in reply to "If the Russians invaded the UK I would welcome them as liberators (nm)"

Just being contrary cos Omnibot gets up my nose and I know for him it's a completely unthinkable notion that a citizen of this country might welcome a foreign occupation if it would save them from the shower of b@stards currently running things.

In the supremely unlikely event that there was a Russian invasion I would probably keep my head down and try to stay out of it. Certainly wouldn't lift a finger to stop them, though - unless something happened that made it personal.

Ultimately the only liberators will be ourselves.

(With apologies for the climb-down!)
I

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Re: Meh...

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 14, 2025, 11:42 pm, in reply to "Meh..."

Quite agree

The last working-class hero in England.

Clio the cat, ? July 1997 - 1 May 2016
Kira the cat, ? ? 2010 - 3 August 2018
Jasper the Ruffian cat ? ? ? - 4 November 2021

nice clip, might have to watch that :) nm

Posted by Ian M <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Ian+M' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 15, 2025, 7:28 pm, in reply to "Re: Meh..."

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Isn't that what the zionazzis did in 1948?....nm

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 14, 2025, 6:16 pm, in reply to "Is Starmer Effing crazy or what?"

The last working-class hero in England.

Clio the cat, ? July 1997 - 1 May 2016
Kira the cat, ? ? 2010 - 3 August 2018
Jasper the Ruffian cat ? ? ? - 4 November 2021

Yes but you're not allowed to say it, Keith

Posted by scrabb <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=scrabb' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 14, 2025, 6:26 pm, in reply to "Isn't that what the zionazzis did in 1948?....nm"

Oops, my tail of integrity popped out....nm

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 14, 2025, 11:39 pm, in reply to "Yes but you're not allowed to say it, Keith"

The last working-class hero in England.

Clio the cat, ? July 1997 - 1 May 2016
Kira the cat, ? ? 2010 - 3 August 2018
Jasper the Ruffian cat ? ? ? - 4 November 2021

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