Rogan discussion, Hamas Hamas Hamas, what about flooding them out? Yeah, that could work, give it a go. Oh, it's too much of a 'heated debate', I don't want to get into it (er, aren't you the one who brought it up?) But you can't call it a genocide, and we have to wait until the 'fog of war' has lifted before making any definitive statements (from around 1:15):
GL: And one thing I've noticed with the left is that with bad opinions, all they do is they repeat certain lines over and over again [...] Whatever you think of the Gaza situation at the moment, I noticed that it's the same thing, genocide, over and over and over again. In every tweet they mention the word genocide, you know, and I don't happen to think it is, but like by the end of it, if you were to stand up against that and say something against that, it's a difficult thing, because you suddenly look like you're pro genocide.
JR: What is the measure of genocide? Like when does it become genocide? Like when you're starving people, when you're bombing indiscriminately, when you've destroyed most of the buildings, when you've killed who knows how many tens of thousands of women and children.
GL [suddenly nervous]: Well, do we want to get into this?
JR: Yeah. I mean, we got into it a little bit.
GL: I I I just think that, you know, Hamas is, I I agree with Coleman Hughes, I think, who was on your show, where he says that, you know, Hamas, they've built like a huge network of tunnels underneath people's houses. Um, they put their headquarters in civilian buildings. It's a form of guerrilla warfare that I don't think should be allowed to continue. And I support Israel in defeating Hamas. It's that simple.
JR: Is there another way to do it other than to blow up everybody? Is there a way to do it without starving the innocent people?
GL: I I I'm you know, again, I just don't know how much of this is Hamas, you know, comes from Hamas. I don't know how much of it is true. I would suggest that all these conversations wait until we finally find out exactly what's what's happened. You know, at the moment it's fog of war stuff, you know, but I don't want to get into a big debate.
JR: Have you ever heard of Eric Prince's idea? Do you know Eric Prince? Do you know who he is?
GL: Was he the Blackwater guy?
JR: Yeah. He had an idea that apparently he floated by, but they rejected. He said instead of destroying everything like that, you could just flood the tunnel system with the seawater.
GL: Oh, well, yeah, great. I mean...
JR: That was his idea. He's like you could flush them all right out. like that they're very vulnerable.
GL: Yeah. Yeah.
JR: And I don't know whether or not I'm, you know, just I heard him speak of this. I believe it was on the Shawn Ryan show. I might be incorrect. He spoke about it on some show. Uh I don't know if it would work. I don't know why they would reject it.
GL: Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. But as I say, I don't really want to go into it because it's such a again it's a very very uh heated debate and I've only got room for one.
I was inclined to side with him on all the trans/TERF/whatever it was stuff, but honestly I'm not particularly engaged with any of that. On this however, he can fuck right off.
The fact that he's appearing on Rogan suggests he's moving into that sphere so he'll be popping up on all the usualy suspects you would think. A nice chat with rapey Russ beckons...The corporate media are complicit in the Gaza genocide. Never forget what they did. Never forgive them for it.
'Can you get any more targeted than blowing the dicks off Hezbollah?'
With right wing scumbag Brendan O'Neill, really letting his hair down (from 44:00):
BON: Um, I did want to ask you kind of in relation to that about the state of comedy and um, we've got the Edinburgh Fringe going on and um, it seems to me that not much of note is happening there. It doesn't seem to be that interesting. It all seems pretty woke. Most strikingly um, some Jewish comedians have been cancelled from the fringe. Um, supposedly because they've got problematic views on the IDF and Gaza, etc. But I think it's because they're Jews and it's not seen as good to hang out with Jews anymore. I mean, that really is a new low, isn't it? Even in the kind of cancel happy world of modern comedy, that's with this is pretty rotten stuff going on right now.
GL: It is. Uh, and you'll forgive me for smiling, but I was delighted to be the first to be so kind of thoroughly cancelled by the Edinburgh Festival to the extent where I couldn't even find a venue and had to do a gig outside Hollywood. But now they've come after the Jews. So I'm actually delighted to be in such company. Because this is another thing I wanted to say on Joe Rogan but I didn't say but like when the printing press was invented I'm not sure if I did say this. Did I say this about the printing press? Did I mention the printing press?
BON: I don't think so [he did - IM]
GL: I had it in my mind to say it. But when the printing press was invented, after that there was a hundred years of crazy religious sects, uh, violent pogroms, uh, and anti-semitism, you know, anti-semitism ran rife and so on, you know. Now we've had the internet and the exact same things are playing out, you know, like ancient, ancient hatreds, misogyny and anti-semitism.
BON: Yeah.
GL: And they are suddenly spreading like wildfire around, uh well certainly around the cultural industries. And I'm just proud to be among their number. I think that the way Jews have been treated in the UK was very familiar to me. Like you go from them [ie: Israel] bombing - which, they had to respond to the atrocity - and everyone complains about that. And then they have the most targeted attack in history on the leaders in Hezbollah and everyone complains about that, and it's like, well, how is Israel supposed to defend itself? Like, can you get any more targeted than blowing the dicks off Hezbollah? I mean, that's pretty damn targeted. And it was done deliberately because they didn't want to kill them because they wanted to put a strain on the economy. That is next level genius. Civilian light - I know one or two innocents were killed - but as a military operation that was very targeted, and it only hit the people it had come for and they still managed to tear the Jews apart for it. So I don't think that that's proper analysis. I think that's anti-semitism. And I think the reason it's happening is because the internet has opened up the doors to it. And just as the printing press did, we're going to get a period where like what was happening with the printing press was that everyone who had a crazy theory about the Bible suddenly had a chance to write it down. Right? So with this case, we just have every single anti-semitic theory, every single anti-female theory, uh just kind of, you know, swimming around the airwaves. And it's the kind of misinformation that outlets like BBC Verify have no interest in.
BON: Yeah.
GL: So, because BBC Verify is probably filled with, like the rest of the BBC, people who hate women and people who hate Jews, you know.
BON: Yeah.
GL: So yeah, I think that that's what's happening. I think we're getting the same things playing out. There's going to be a period of absolute insanity and until we actually grab a hold of it and think, well what will happen next that we have to guard ourselves against in this connected world, we're going to be constantly subject to these periods of madness.
BON: Your point there about the return of the two medieval hatreds, hatred for women and hatred for Jews is so well put, and I've noticed that myself because if you look at left-wing demos over the past few months. There was the demonstration against the Supreme Court ruling at which people were openly calling for the death of women, the death of terfs. That same weekend, there was a march against Israel at which people were waving bloody shrouds and accusing the Jews of killing babies. And you just think this is just the return of ancient medieval hatreds against both the female sex and the Jewish people.
GL [nods in agreement]
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I don't know what kind of brain rot infects the anti-trans ppl to transfer standing up for women to making apologias for Israel's genocidal atrocities in this way. Is it just tribal, and they're focused on attacking perceived enemies? Or is it latent islamophobia coupled with an atheist, western worldview that perceives Islam as an enemy of women and 'western values'? Quite a few people have pivoted in this way, eg: Shahrar Ali and Naomi Wolf:
Well that's all even worse. Seems like he's gone mask off as the kids like to say. Either that or he's been cancelled by liberal media and he's decided the dollar is greener on the other side.
Also, the "right turn at 50" thing is a possibility. Like Mamet, who's a raving ziocretin far-righter now.The corporate media are complicit in the Gaza genocide. Never forget what they did. Never forgive them for it.
Graham Linehan 🎗️ retweeted Yossi BenYakar @YossiBenYakar nitter.poast.org/KonstantinKisin/status… Shocking video from London: At a “Pro-Palestinian” rally, a Pakistani Muslim migrant proudly declares — “Hitler knew how to deal with these people.” This is not about Gaza. This is pure, open Jew-hatred on the streets of Britain. Where are the police? Konstantin Kisin
Graham Linehan 🎗️ retweeted Heidi Bachram 🎗️ @HeidiBachram Aug 20 Hamas’ lawyer Franck Magennis outside court today supporting Kneecap’s Mo Chara who’s up on a terror charge. He’s ranting positively about a “Palestinian bulldozer” breaking down the fences on October 7. Calling Gaza a “concentration camp”. To loud applause. Disgusting.
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner Aug 17 Replying to @alastairfrew @JewsFightBack Israel already withdrew from Gaza and were rewarded with the worst attack on Jews since WWII.
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner Aug 16 Whenever you read that a 'journalist' was killed in the Gaza conflict, remember this. Marina Medvin 🇺🇸 @MarinaMedvin Aug 16 One of the hostages who was held by an Al Jazeera journalist is now active on X and his posts just chill me.
Graham Linehan 🎗️ retweeted Eitan Fischberger @EFischberger Aug 15 Reminder that in June 2024, Doctors Without Borders (@MSF) stated that one of their staffers in Gaza, Fadi al-Wadiya, was killed by the IDF. Everyone immediately condemned Israel.
The IDF subsequently declassified images showing Fadi wearing the terror group's fatigues Eitan Fischberger @EFischberger Aug 15 Bombshell: The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation's @chapinfay revealed yesterday that Doctors Without Borders refused to treat 20 GHF aid workers injured by Hamas, leaving them to die in the courtyard of Nasser Hospital
Graham Linehan 🎗️ retweeted Yoav Kaufman 🇮🇱 @yoavkaufman Aug 15 Unbiased journalist in Gaza who'se definitely not Hamas affiliated says:
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner Jul 12 Image is from 2022 so nothing to do with Gaza. But, fun fact! Palestinians call black people 'abeed' which means 'slave'. Shadowed News 🗞️ @shadowed_news Jul 11 She died while committing genocide in gaza
She belonged to Ethiopia,idk why Ethiopian's are dying for Israel despite Israeli hate them
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner Jul 6 Replying to @KILLTHEICON @AKAsusangreen fuck off to Gaza, useful idiot. Louise is worth a million of you.
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner Jun 15 Greta looking at the Gaza marchers in Egypt on her telly.
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner Jun 5 I also love the argument "Israel won't let us into Gaza so we're going to unquestioningly publish whatever we're sent by a terrorist source" Kosher🎗 @koshercockney Jun 5 Just… what.
Cannot believe what I just heard.
These guys are now the laughing stock of journalism in my opinion 😅
Basically:
We didn’t do that. We didn’t quote Hamas. What we did was… quote Hamas and said we quoted Hamas.
Absolutely clowns
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner May 27 Replying to @StevenGWalker74 Yeah except the girl was fine. But who was the Gaza resident who filmed instead of helping her?
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner May 16 These dipshits don't understand that October 7th changed everything for many of us who were sympathetic to Palestinian grievances. It's now clear that Hamas must be destroyed not only for Israel's sake, but for the people of Gaza who they think of as shields and ammunition.
Enthusiastic Eunuch @ChiuauaTeardrop May 16 Replying to @Glinner Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner May 6 In one way it's good to have lost everything because the headline actually doesn't apply to me anymore telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/05…
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner May 4 But Gaza is STARVING, Michael! Michael Rosen 💙💙🎓🎓 NICE 爷爷 @MichaelRosenYes May 4 I crept into the kitchen, tiptoed over to the sideboard...my hand slid silently across the surface and with one sudden leap, grabbed a small leftover chocolate easter rabbit, tore off the gilt foil wrapping and stuffed the whole beast into my mouth. Hunting Scene: North London
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner Mar 6 You don't give a shit about democracy? Move to Gaza. This tweet is unavailable
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner 26 Dec 2024 Add this to the 1500+ failures in Gaza reporting already logged against the BBC. Hen Mazzig @HenMazzig 26 Dec 2024 Not that it matters to the BBC, but the five men mentioned below were part of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a UK proscribed terrorist group.
Do you think this context is worth mentioning? 🤔
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner 20 Dec 2024 Replying to @LazarusEmber Huh? I'm criticising people for not caring about Gaza until October 7
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner 6 Dec 2024 Somewhere under Gaza, Gary hides from the "bad people". The Jewish Chronicle @TheJewishChron 5 Dec 2024 Gary Lineker: ‘I’m not antisemitic, I’m anti-bad people’
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Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner 5 Oct 2024 Replying to @byrneintruiged @Paulineburns5 @dlLambo I guarantee you none of these pricks tweeted a single thing about Gaza in the two years of ceasefire before Oct 7.
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner 5 Oct 2024 Replying to @SirPhilipBin sure. I'd love to see how many times you mentioned Gaza AT ALL in the two years leading up to Oct 7
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner 25 Aug 2024 Replying to @WeTheMany_ Is that in Gaza where Hamas hide in schools and hospitals to ensure high casualties on their own side?
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner 11 Jul 2024 Replying to @CurlySpanner007 here you go thejc.com/news/israel/did-th…
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner 9 Apr 2024 Replying to @WeTheMany_ I'd suggest hunting down the billionaire leaders of Hamas living in Egypt and Qatar and using their money to build something in Gaza other than tunnels and weapons
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner 8 Apr 2024 Replying to @CT28114189 Tell Hamas to stop building tunnels beneath Gaza then. Better yet, tell them to release the hostages and surrender.
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner 28 Mar 2024 Well hopefully the people of Gaza will revolt against the murdering raping scum they have as leaders.
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner 29 Feb 2024 Last month, 22 Jewish BBC staff signed a letter complaining about its Gaza coverage. The Guardian just had to apologise and pay damages to a GB News presenter. Anything to say about those institutions, Oliver? This tweet is unavailable
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner 28 Nov 2023 In the two years in which Hamas were planning their attacks, was Owen Jones diligently working on a peaceful solution for the people in Gaza he professed to care about? No. He was too busy calling Linda Bellos & Helen Steel bigots. And trying to hunt down disobedient schoolgirls
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner 14 Nov 2023 Replying to @MalkyRev @infowaruk "No need for profanity" under a photo of a mutilated girl. Then changes the subject to Gaza. We see you.
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner 19 Oct 2023 I wasn't on top of this one as much as I should have been. I feel like recent events in Israel and Gaza means they should push the deadline back. It's a very different world from when they first asked the question Ben Scallan 🇮🇪 @Ben_Scallan 19 Oct 2023 ATTENTION: The government is holding a consultation on its "Disinformation Strategy" which ends tomorrow, so it's vital to weigh in now. Personally I vehemently oppose this, as I don't think it's the place of the government to regulate information. I think it's an extremely dangerous precedent for democracy.
Jews Fight Back 🇺🇸🇮🇱 @JewsFightBack Aug 17 She had leukemia so advanced her bone marrow collapsed (pancytopenia). That’s cancer. Not hunger. Not malnutrition. Her medical report doesn’t list “malnutrition” once. The BBC invented it. That’s not sloppy journalism. That’s outright fraud. This tweet is unavailable
alastair frew @alastairfrew Aug 17 Has Israel withdrawn all military from Gaza and rebuilt all the hospitals it destroyed? (I’ll wait for your reply, which won’t ever come)
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner Aug 17 Has Hamas released the hostages or surrendered? You know they could end the war right away, right?
alastair frew @alastairfrew Aug 17 Israel to withdraw from Gaza and the West Bank now. Hamas to release the last prisoners now. Yes? Or do you only want one of those?
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner Aug 17 Replying to @alastairfrew @JewsFightBack Israel already withdrew from Gaza and were rewarded with the worst attack on Jews since WWII.
alastair frew @alastairfrew Aug 17 Replying to @Glinner @JewsFightBack Israel has Gaza under blockade and has stolen huge swathes of land. Israel occupies the West Bank. You are an intelligent and influential man, and yet you ignore all of this. Why is that?
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It's just so unbelievably myopic, partisan, ignorant, one-sided, historically illiterate... I thought Irish people were supposed to understand about violent settler colonialism, especially those espousing leftist, internationalist values and not gung-ho unionists. Wtf is wrong with Linehan that his only engagement with this issue is to bash pro-Palestinians and regurgitate extreme zionist talking points while completely ignoring or denying the clear-as-day atrocities that Israel has been perpetrating every day since Oct 7th, and long before. It's got to be some kind of mind virus or something...
The Rogan discussion of blandly discussing flooding the tunnels in Gaza as some kind of totally acceptable or proportionate response to the Hamas attacks is similarly insane. Do they not get the context of a desperate resistance organisation mounting a last gasp attempt to end the death grip the occupying power has on their entire society? And all they're concerned with is how best to extinguish that resistance and justify it in terms of legitimate defense - even now after it has been endlessly documented by the israelis themselves, that this is all about taking the land, expelling the people and killing those who try to stay behind. It's like Good Germans making a few tutting noises about how bad the situation is in the Warsaw ghetto, but that it's all because of those extremist resistance fighters and the nazis are justified with any response they decide on, but if they could try to minimise unnecessary casualties that would be best. "Why not just flood the tunnels?" - Jesus H Christ... don't these sh!theads listen to what they're saying?
As a minor segway, I was under impression that flooding the tunnels was on the cards about 6 odd months ago. As far as I could tell it was technically infeasible. So, why put that red herring in the conversation?
... and so there are limits to how much of his manic turdulence I pay attention to. But a feeling I get from occasionally seeing his social media eruptions is that he is in a very severe state of crisis psychologically -- and consequently sees the 'breakdown' of supposedly fundamental boundaries all around him: 'trans ideology' eroding 'man'/'woman', 'terrorism' eroding 'lawful' power/'unlawful' power (and therefore 'parent'/'child'). Something I have observed over unwilling decades, in fact, is the incredible ease with which evil nutters psychodynamically cast ultra-violent, 'Old Testament' Israel in the role of 'chastising parent', and its millions of victims as the 'naughty children who need to be brought into line'. People won't believe this, but I can remember having pre-teen playground conversations in which the IRA was straightforwardly discussed in very much those latter terms. (Let them near power and they'll break everything.)
No, I have no wider point to make. Except perhaps to mention that I've never fucking hated the human animal as much as I do today.
M.
Re: I genuinely don't give a shit about Linehan....
"...Except perhaps to mention that I've never fucking hated the human animal as much as I do today..."
-Long gone are the days of innocence when I believed it was the Misanthropes who were the ones "with a problem..."
Re: No better on Nitter
Posted by Keith-264 on August 23, 2025, 8:34 pm, in reply to "No better on Nitter"
Are they haSSbara? The last working-class hero in England. Clio the cat, ? July 1997 - 1 May 2016 Kira the cat, ? ? 2010 - 3 August 2018 Jasper the Ruffian cat ??? - 4 November 2021 Georgina the cat ???-4 December 2025
Not to defend him at all but maybe it's a conscious choice
He thinks he can carve out a niche and get some of that apartheid shekel? He's never given any hint of this sort of demented zionism before and he surely has to be too intelligent to just be that ignorant.
In a way it's worse if he's done it for profit but it seems way off for him unless he just kept it hidden all these years. The corporate media are complicit in the Gaza genocide. Never forget what they did. Never forgive them for it.
Re: Not to defend him at all but maybe it's a conscious choice
It could hardly be principle.The last working-class hero in England. Clio the cat, ? July 1997 - 1 May 2016 Kira the cat, ? ? 2010 - 3 August 2018 Jasper the Ruffian cat ??? - 4 November 2021 Georgina the cat ???-4 December 2025
Re: Not to defend him at all but maybe it's a conscious choice
He seems to have had his brain broken by Oct 7th and can't understand why people were immediately in the streets in support of the Palestinians, anticipating the onslaught against them or in some cases (shock!) celebrating the act of resistance. For him that can only be evidence of antisemitism, hatred of 'western values' etc. eg: 'Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner Aug 11 Whenever someone complains about Israel's response to an atrocity, I remember the London crowds who came out in support of Hamas the day after the same atrocity. That's how I knew the protests were being motivated by pure antisemitism.' - https://nitter.poast.org/Glinner/status/1955012654747242539#m
For some reason he has jettisoned his ability to think critically about the claims zionists put out in defense of israel's atrocities. I've not seen him admit to a single instance of them lying or putting out misleading propaganda. It all goes one way. I don't know what his problem is...Tell your story; Ask a question; Interpret generously http://storybythethroat.wordpress.com/tell-ask-listen/
I haven't been so disappointed by the moral idiocy of a writer I once admired since that old fool David Cornwell signed on to that witch hunt letter against Corbyn.
Don't know what's up with my bloody eyes lately (maybe it's all the horrific things they keep seeing) but I read and re-read that about 5 times, uttering "say it ain't so", until I finally realised you said "David Cornwell" and not "David Cromwell"! Sigh of relief! "I won't dignify the attacker's words by repeating them, they are horrific and vile."
Good one. He really has gone off the deep end.The corporate media are complicit in the Gaza genocide. Never forget what they did. Never forgive them for it.
Calling the blag out from Gaza an 'atrocity' is wilful stupidity.The last working-class hero in England. Clio the cat, ? July 1997 - 1 May 2016 Kira the cat, ? ? 2010 - 3 August 2018 Jasper the Ruffian cat ??? - 4 November 2021 Georgina the cat ???-4 December 2025
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner Aug 1 Replying to @ChelseaBridgeWh You mean the victims Hamas hides among like rats to increase numbers of the dead? I agree they should stop doing that.
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner Jul 13 Replying to @dazzlerite2024 Hamas shouldn't start wars and hide like rats beneath their own civilians then
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner May 26 Replying to @sotcstill No no I'm *against* the scumbag rats of Hamas.
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner May 6 Replying to @ajmurison 2yr ceasefire broken with an atrocity. Hamas hid under their own civilians because they wanted to maximise casualties on their own side. Palestine would be a paradise if its Qatari money was spent on its people instead of tunnels and guns for Hamas rats.
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner Jan 23 Do you mean punish Hamas for committing an atrocity and then hiding like rats beneath their own people? If so, I'm with you 100% Dr Zahira Jaser @ZahiraJaser Jan 22 I cannot imagine such horror is going to be unpunished, because if this can happen to the Palestinians then it can happen to all of us.
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner 31 Dec 2024 Replying to @StiffNips2 A tunnel system bigger than the London Underground so that Hamas rats can hide after committing atrocities. You're the cunt, sir.
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner 30 Dec 2024 Replying to @Mac_the_week @JohnFerryMarin Lol the greatest infrastructure is the tunnels Hamas rats build under their own people.
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner 18 Dec 2024 Replying to @Eldjb1 Speak to Hamas hiding like the rats they are under their own people while holding Israeli hostages
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner 21 Nov 2024 Replying to @BizzaroWisdo Hamas? No I don't support them. I hope they're all hunted down like the rats they are.
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner 29 Oct 2024 Replying to @David17522949 Horrifying. Hopefully soon Israel will destroy Hamas and put an end to them hiding like rats among their own civilians.
Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner 25 Oct 2024 Replying to @Mac_the_week I don't think I've ever done that. By war crimes, I presume you're talking about the worst atrocity committed against Jewish people since WW2 by Hamas rats who then hid among their own people to drive up casualties?
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Of course, real men would stand out in the open for the IOF to slaughter at will. What kind of coward would hide from certain, violent death like this? Unthinkable!
Real nazi stuff from Linehan with this relentless, dehumanising language...
This is what confused me even if I didn't express it so well. He's too smart to be this stupid just from a lack of reading/information.
So then you are left with long-time secret racist, racist for money and clout or right-turn at 50 (ish).
If he'd felt like this all the way through his writing career you would think it would have shown through but I can't recall even a hint of that in his stuff.
Whatever it is, he's lost me (I'm sure he'll be gutted).
The corporate media are complicit in the Gaza genocide. Never forget what they did. Never forgive them for it.
Re: Maybe you only get to have one non-establishment viewpoint per celeb...
'He's too smart to be this stupid just from a lack of reading/information' - yes, and it's not like people in the nitter comments haven't pointed him in the direction of reality, albeit not very gently a lot of the time. Which for me means a refusal to look beyond surface-level hasbara and msm talking points. As Jensen wrote: 'It is not necessary that the lies be particularly believable. The lies act as barriers to truth.' - https://derrickjensen.org/language-older-than-words/language-bodies-dreams/
But as for why... I don't really know. An insult he routinely tosses out is 'NPC' (ie: non-playing-character, video game reference) using it as a way to dismiss arguments made by people who out themselves as woke (as he sees it) in their nitter descriptions. eg: 'BLM, Free Palestine and pronouns in the bio. You are an NPC and I claim my fifty quid' - https://nitter.poast.org/Glinner/status/1774619525058830820#m
I mean, fair play, I tend to do the same thing for people with Ukraine or Israel flags, or indeed pronouns. But it's cheap, and doesn't engage with the arguments presented. Also, the fact that a certain segment of 'woke', idpol-focused liberals have latched on to Palestine as an issue doesn't mean that they're the only ones invested, or that you can safely ignore what's happening in Gaza because your enemies are also talking about it, therefore they must be lying, ignorant, or speaking in bad faith because that's what they did on the trans rights issue. Could it be that he's simply triggered by their response and has taken a contrary position just to spite them or because he can't admit that they might be right about something? I mean, that would be incredibly petty and immature, but it's a tried and tested approach, and maybe hard to avoid if the opposing tribe in the culture war is giving you constant plaudits for doing it.
On Ken's 'secret racist' theory, I wouldn't know, but I'd be surprised. It would be interesting to see how he responded to the war on terror, or if he came out in support of the Afghanistan invasion because 'women'. Either way, he's exposed as a full blown racist by his stance on this now.
Media Lens @medialens 15 Jan 2018 Was even hard-right McCarthyism this thuggish? I guess so. But our culture really has sunk into a dark, ugly, brutal place. And at least in the 1950s their paranoia had the excuse that nuclear annihilation seemed a real possibility, unlike now.
[image] 'I haven't seen sunlight in so long, I don't remember it' - Julian Assange
So maybe there's an element of misguided chivalry in there of the #metoo variety that fails to recognise that women are human and just as capable of lies & duplicity as anyone. Also, again, an inability to fairly consider evidence when his biases have been triggered.
Seems like ML had a fairly respectful series of exchanges with Linehan, mainly from 2014 and before, not that he seems to have learned anything from them judging by his current attitudes (you can't see what his replies were for most of them) - https://nitter.poast.org/medialens/search?f=tweets&q=glinner
Anyway, I've probably spent too much time on this now!
I didn't know Linehan had his knife in Julian; but if someone had asked me for my prediction, I'd have pointed out that Assange is like catnip to an evil nutter, and reasoned accordingly. For example, where Trump is concerned -- evil nutter par excellence, given that he has -- I mean is -- three personality disorders piled one upon another -- we see that his attitude to Assange and Wikileaks turned from positive to negative once he himself switched psychodynamically from naughty child (outsider seeking power) to chastising parent (insider wielding power). With Linehan and his obviously collapsing mind (no, I don't know anything about the little shit or his life, and don't want to), Assange was always going to freak him out by way of eroding the boundary 'legitimate knowing'/'illegitimate knowing' -- thereby being the ultimate naughty child who will burn the place down by making public all the things that the parents do in secret. Since the latter possess a hugely sexualised aspect -- provoking in the nosey little child a combination of immense curiosity and enormous guilt -- what could be more inevitable than Linehan immediately flinging around the accusations of sexual criminality?
M.
Interesting analysis, think you might be on to something there! thx (nm)
Posted by Ian M on August 25, 2025, 4:30 pm, in reply to "Re: Assange..."
I suppose that when you sell your soul, there's no point in half-measures....nm
Posted by Keith-264 on August 25, 2025, 9:32 am, in reply to "Assange..."
n mThe last working-class hero in England. Clio the cat, ? July 1997 - 1 May 2016 Kira the cat, ? ? 2010 - 3 August 2018 Jasper the Ruffian cat ??? - 4 November 2021 Georgina the cat ???-4 December 2025
on August 23, 2025, 3:55 pm