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Does anyonen disagree with Tony Greenstein on David Miller's "Jewish Empire" depiction?

Posted by scrabb <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=scrabb' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 7, 2025, 2:24 pm

Frankly I'm puzzled about Tony's rather vehement rejection of David Miller's view on the "Greater Israel" project. Tony calls it a conspiracy theory and says it harms or damages the Palestinian cause for statehood. I don't see this distinction at all -- that Miller is ditching anti-Zionism in favour of a "Jewish Empire" trope. If you watch Miller's long interview he makes a very convincing case, in my view, for the infiltration of Zionism into establishment structures in both the US and UK.

Would welcome other views.

Re: Does anyonen disagree with Tony Greenstein on David Miller's "Jewish Empire" depiction?

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 7, 2025, 5:00 pm, in reply to " Does anyonen disagree with Tony Greenstein on David Miller's "Jewish Empire" depiction?"

No, it's the other way round, he British and EU boss classes, Ukronazis, zionazis, Uyghurs, Sunni factions etc are in the pay of American Caesar. By using the zionazis as proxies, Caesar can hide behind promiscuous antisemitism allegations.

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Re: Does anyonen disagree with Tony Greenstein on David Miller's "Jewish Empire" depiction?

Posted by RaskolnikovX <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Raskolnikov' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 7, 2025, 5:23 pm, in reply to " Does anyonen disagree with Tony Greenstein on David Miller's "Jewish Empire" depiction?"

I've not seen Miller's interview yet so I will have to do that. I thought his main complaint was Miller switching to "It's the Jews" and not "It's zionism" and excusing all the evils of empire as having been "imported" by them. That is edging very close to actual anti-semitic "all a Jewish conspiracy" kind of thinking, but at the same time the infiltration of zionists into all establishment structures does seem to be incontrovertible.

Could you post a link to his (Miller's) interview, please?

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Re: Does anyonen disagree with Tony Greenstein on David Miller's "Jewish Empire" depiction?

Posted by scrabb <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=scrabb' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 7, 2025, 10:09 pm, in reply to "Re: Does anyonen disagree with Tony Greenstein on David Miller's "Jewish Empire" depiction?"

See "David Moller's Crazy Fantasy" lower down. It takes you to Tony Greenstein's blog and also (I think) David Miller's interview. Sorry for delay, I've only just seen your request.

Thanks for the lead :) nm

Posted by RaskolnikovX <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Raskolnikov' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 6:48 am, in reply to "Re: Does anyonen disagree with Tony Greenstein on David Miller's "Jewish Empire" depiction?"

The corporate media are complicit in the Gaza genocide.
Never forget what they did. Never forgive them for it.

Re: Does anyonen disagree with Tony Greenstein on David Miller's "Jewish Empire" depiction?

Posted by t <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=TomskiD' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 7, 2025, 10:24 pm, in reply to " Does anyonen disagree with Tony Greenstein on David Miller's "Jewish Empire" depiction?"

Fwiw, from ai:

Context of his Discussion
Miller's views gained significant public attention following his dismissal from the University of Bristol. A UK tribunal in October 2024 found that his anti-Zionist beliefs qualified as a protected philosophical belief under the Equality Act 2010, and that he was wrongfully dismissed. This ruling has been seen by his supporters as a major victory for academic freedom and the right to critique Israeli policies and the "Greater Israel" project without fear of being automatically labeled antisemitic.

Hence not sure about this TG's charge, so to speak.Is this 'reds under the beds' charge by TG? I read his books fwiw. Needs more investments of resources i.e. not convinced so far.

Thanks for contribution, t. Very valuable

Posted by scrabb <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=scrabb' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 4:37 pm, in reply to "Re: Does anyonen disagree with Tony Greenstein on David Miller's "Jewish Empire" depiction?"

I havne't had time to look into this further, so your input welcome.

That's the older context when everyone supported him against the zionists

Posted by RaskolnikovX <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Raskolnikov' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 5:21 pm, in reply to "Thanks for contribution, t. Very valuable"

and rightfully so imo but since he won his case he's had a few moments where he's gone to fairly extreme points which is why I think TG is asking questions.

Here's one example (appearing on some far-right podcast and not pushing back on holocaust denial and then saing stuff like Gaza is a "real holocaust"

https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/msg/archive/1743196311.html

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