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    BBC: 'False claims that heatwave is bogus spread online' Archived Message

    Posted by Ian M on July 29, 2023, 12:03 pm

    Via ML, retweeting without comment - https://nitter.moomoo.me/ProfStrachan/status/1684949904689430528#m

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66314338

    False claims that heatwave is bogus spread online

    By Marco Silva
    Climate Disinformation Reporter

    False claims suggesting that the BBC has been misreporting temperatures in southern Europe have been spreading on social media.

    A clip of Neil Oliver, a GB News presenter, accusing the BBC "and others" of "driving fear" by using "supposedly terrifying temperatures", has been viewed more than two million times.

    For the past few weeks, an intense heatwave has been sweeping through parts of southern Europe and north Africa, with extensive wildfires breaking out in Greece, Italy and Algeria - leading to more than 40 deaths.

    Speaking about the fires on Rhodes on GB News on Monday, Mr Oliver accused the BBC, and other broadcasters, of trying to "make people terrified of the weather".

    "Those supposedly terrifying temperatures that were being predicted, all starting with a four... 40 this and 40 that... were obtained using satellite images of ground temperatures," he said.

    "That's never been the temperature that's used in weather reporting and forecasting.

    "On the contrary, those figures are the air temperature, a couple of feet above the ground surface ...the true temperatures, the air temperatures which actually happened, were in the 30s."

    Mr Oliver's claim that the BBC was using ground temperatures is false, as several BBC weather presenters have pointed out.

    BBC Weather bases its temperature reporting and forecasting on air temperatures.

    For his other claim, that "true temperatures" were in the 30s, Mr Oliver didn't specify exact locations, but on Monday 24 July several places across Europe recorded air temperatures over 40C.

    Lamia in Greece experienced an air temperature of 45C, as did Figueres in Spain (45.4C) and Gythio in Greece (46.4 °C) in previous days.

    GB News did not respond to the BBC's request for a comment about Mr Oliver's clip. Mr Oliver has also been approached for comment.

    How the BBC reports temperatures

    BBC Weather - in keeping with other broadcasters and weather services - relies on temperature measurements taken in line with internationally agreed standards.

    These are taken using thermometers that measure temperatures in the shade with a free movement of air.

    For that reason, thermometers are placed inside Stevenson screens - purpose-built, white-slatted boxes at a height of 1.25m to prevent direct heat from the ground and other hard surfaces from affecting any reading.

    The air temperature measurements taken in countries affected by the heatwave will have been obtained using instruments and methods approved by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO), of which the UK is a member.

    Ground temperatures can be measured by thermometers and by satellites. On average, they can to be 10-15 degrees higher than air temperatures.

    But these are not used in the BBC's weather reporting and forecasting.
    Other claims about high temperatures

    Some social media users have attacked BBC Weather forecasts, suggesting the reporting does not match real temperatures.

    An air temperature of 48.2C was recorded in Jerzu, in Sardinia, Italy on Monday - the highest temperature in Europe so far this year.

    BBC Weather was one of many news outlets reporting this record. But some social media users suggested the reports were inaccurate.

    Robin Monotti, a film-maker with more than 81,000 followers on Twitter, claimed the BBC's reports were not backed by evidence.

    But data from Sardinia's own Regional Agrometeorological Service confirms the high temperatures reported.

    Contacted by the BBC, Mr Monotti directed us to the Italian Meteorological Service's website, which listed different temperature readings for that day in Jerzu.

    However, none of those readings were taken in Jerzu itself, but instead in nearby municipalities (with the nearest of those more than 13 miles away).

    He then alleged that the equipment to get that particular temperature reading did not abide by international standards.

    But Sardinia's Regional Agrometeorological Service makes clear on its website that its weather stations are operated according to WMO recommendations.

    And the WMO also told the BBC that the temperature of 48.2C registered in Jerzu is consistent with data from other stations across Sardinia.

    But it added that any temperature record is provisional until recognised by national or regional authorities, and ultimately by the WMO.

    Forecasting the weather

    Weather forecasts are produced using complex computer models and updated once maximum temperatures have been reached.

    Forecasters aim to get as close as possible to the actual temperatures.

    Small variations in atmospheric conditions can make a significant difference to the weather which has been forecast.

    A forecast temperature within a range of two degrees of the measured reading is considered by most meteorological organisations to be accurate.
    Screenshot of a tweet alleging discrepancies in the BBC's reporting of high temperatures in Europe

    But even if forecasts for cities or entire regions are correct, they do not always reflect small, local variations in temperature.

    BBC Weather forecast temperatures of 47C on the Italian island of Sicily on 19 July.

    A number of Twitter users, including Mr Monotti, claimed that the BBC's own weather website listed a much lower temperature of 37C in Palermo, the Sicilian capital.

    Palermo's location meant the city remained cooler than other parts of the large Mediterranean island.

    According to Sicily's Agrometeorological Information Service, the highest temperature recorded on that day was 44.8C in the municipality of Francofonte.

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    Here's the Neil Oliver clip, the ground temp part being from around 4:30:





    I guess he's referring to the European Space Agency 'satellite' data which did, it seems, refer to ground temps and get repeated by some media outlets as a regular air temp forecast: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/07/19/europes-48c-horror-that-never-wasesa-media-sharply-criticized-for-manipulative-reporting/ The beeb didn't address this, though their above defence of multiple 40*-plus air temps seems sound and a quick scan of https://nitter.moomoo.me/thecoastguy doesn't show Oliver disputing the article.

    Robin Monotti on the other hand has taken issue with a number of the above claims, appearing to show that the facts are on his side wrt the alleged 48.2* record temp in Sicily, chosen by the beeb from an agricultural weather station which isn't approved by the WMO. The temp discrepancy isn't the 10 degrees C he originally alleged, but the highest WMO approved reading nearby he cites was 41.5*. Will check back to see if there are further rebuttals...

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    https://nitter.moomoo.me/robinmonotti/status/1684884228184387584#m

    Robin Monotti @robinmonotti

    🧵 ON THE BBC's FALSE CLAIMS in their article titled:
    "False claims of bogus heatwave spread online"
    FALSE CLAIM 1:
    "The air temperature measurements taken in countries affected by the heatwave will have been obtained using instruments and methods approved by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO), of which the UK is a member."
    bbc.com/news/science-environ…

    The agricultural station used by the BBC for their max temperature claim of 48.2°C is NOT approved by the WMO. Therefore there is no proof that the instruments and methods are approved by the WMO. These are the WMO approved climate stations in Sardinia. There is no Jerzu station in the WMO approved map of stations.

    FALSE CLAIM 2:
    "Contacted by the BBC, Mr Monotti directed us to the Italian Meteorological Service's website, which listed different temperature readings for that day in Jerzu.
    However, none of those readings were taken in Jerzu itself, but instead in nearby municipalities (with the nearest of those more than 13 miles away)."
    The readings I gave the BBC are of the ONLY WMO approved stations in the proximity of Jerzu. The non WMO approved station named by the BBC as Jerzu is also NOT in Jerzu. It is an agricultural station used for agricultural monitoring. It is in fact "JERZU RU" (JERZU Rete Unica) which is ~10 Km from Jerzu town (JERZU RF).

    FALSE CLAIM 3
    That my tweet was misleading.
    In fact, while the climate station used by the BBC for the 48.2°C claim, Jerzu RU, is ~10Km away, the weather station I reported, with a max of 41.5°C, is off a football pitch in Jerzu itself (JERZU RF). Therefore mine was the accurate station for Jerzu itself, while the BBC was using an agricultural station ~10km away!

    FALSE CLAIM 4
    "He then alleged that the equipment to get that particular temperature reading did not abide by international standards."

    I did not "allege": I stated as fact that the station used by the BBC is NOT approved by the WMO! Others are, and none of those reported 48.2°C.

    FLASE CLAIM 5
    "But Sardinia's Regional Agrometeorological Service makes clear on its website that its weather stations are operated according to WMO recommendations."

    This does not mean they are approved by the WMO or indeed are regularly checked by WMO operatives. It is misleading wording. Claiming something does not make it so. Only the WMO can say whether the station is approved. It is not, these ones are:

    FALSE CLAIM 6:
    That my tweet is misleading. My tweet uses two sources both from the BBC indicating the forecast was not in line with current temperature in Sicily's biggest city. What was misleading was the BBC's claim of 46 & 47°C in Sardinia & Sicily. The BBC again uses a claim from an agricultural station network of not officially approved WMO stations and then says it reached 44.8°C, which is NOT 46 or 47°C. So what was really misleading, my tweet with two contradicting temperatures: forecast and actual, or the BBC's forecast which was 2-3°C off the highest temperature reported by an agricultural station?

    WHAT THE BBC AND I AGREE ON: Valid temperatures need, as a minimum, to be first recognised by national authorities, which are the temperatures I provided the BBC with, and ultimately by the WMO. Unapproved WMO stations therefore need two levels of further validation that they do not have as soon as a figure is claimed by them. An agricultural network of stations is not subject to the level of monitoring of WMO approved stations, and therefore national authorities use WMO approved stations instead for their data.

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    (For the record I think Monotti is mostly full of it, judging by the rest of his nitter feed, a litany of debunked denier talking points. He does seem to have caught the beeb here though, so credit where credit is due.)

    cheers,
    I

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