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Thank goodness for you tube

Posted by JERRY <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=JERRY' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 8, 2024, 11:31 am

Have to admit I am still learning my way Honda CB350. Looking in the manual I think this must be the first vehicle I have owned that doesn't have a oil filter. Looking in the Haynes book it states it has a centrifugal filter that has to be cleaned but doesn't tell you how to get into in. Had a look on you tube and found an American clip how to remove and clean. Pretty easy once you know but not sure why the workshop manual doesn't explain this. Just finished the job judging by the crap that I removed the last owner didn't know how to do it also.
This is the crud that came out

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Circlip holds the housing in place

Lucky the screw are off set as the cover must go back in the correct position the line up the oil ways

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The oldest rocker in town!

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Posted by geoff the bonnie <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=geoff+the+bonnie' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 8, 2024, 1:06 pm, in reply to "Thank goodness for you tube"

The Grandsons Yamaha 125 has no oil filter but has a gauze arrangement. Chinese scooters are another engine with no paper filter. I suppose they were designed for throw away when it goes wrong.
Many of the 60s Hondas had camshaft failures as the cams ran direct in the alloy head and owners neglected oil changes.
Mainly the Benley twins that the learners rode at 10,000 rpm.

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Posted by Nigel B <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Nigel+B' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 8, 2024, 1:48 pm, in reply to "Re: Thank goodness for you tube"

My CD175 had one of those crankshaft mounted centrifugal filter arrangements. I did try to clean it on one occasion but couldn't get the lid off so, rather than risk putting the bike out of commission by damaging it, I just put it back together and carried on.

Jerry's filter doesn't look like it has ever been cleaned to me.

Nigel B.

Re: Thank goodness for you tube

Posted by Lannis <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Lannis' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 8, 2024, 1:56 pm, in reply to "Re: Thank goodness for you tube"

I rooted the cam on a CB160 not realizing that the centrifugal filter (which is just an easier-to-clean sludge trap) needed servicing.

After a cleaning or two, you'll get a feel of how often to service it. I'm guessing that relatively frequent oil changes will help.

Lannis

I don't take health advice from people who think the world is overpopulated.

Re: Thank goodness for you tube

Posted by laverdabru <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=laverdabru' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 8, 2024, 2:41 pm, in reply to "Re: Thank goodness for you tube"

Both my Honda 125 singles (1972 & '76) had this type of oil filter, as does the 2005 Innova.
In your earlier post you mentioned 1.500 mile oil change intervals. Must admit, I'd be inclined to do it at 1000. Only takes 2 litres, so not that costly.

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Posted by JERRY <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=JERRY' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 8, 2024, 10:39 pm, in reply to "Re: Thank goodness for you tube"

Bru the oil will be changed much before manufacturer recommendation just like all my bikes. Oil sure is cheaper than engine rebuilds

The oldest rocker in town!

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Posted by JERRY <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=JERRY' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 8, 2024, 4:05 pm, in reply to "Re: Thank goodness for you tube"

Nige have to admit it was pretty gummed up. Still cant believe how well the bike goes. Maybe just Honda brilliant engineering.

The oldest rocker in town!

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Posted by Leon Novello <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Leon+Novello' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 8, 2024, 11:31 pm, in reply to "Thank goodness for you tube"

As I remember, the Ariel had a strainer in the crankshaft flywheel which was accessed after removing the plate under the crankcase. I never did take it out for inspection as the Castrol Grand Prix SAE 50 was always clean.

Leon Novello

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Posted by laverdabru <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=laverdabru' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 9, 2024, 9:05 am, in reply to "Re: Thank goodness for you tube"

Oil sure is cheaper than engine rebuilds

Very true - & a lesson expensively learnt with a Honda back in the late '70's

. As was the fact these new fangled bikes preferred 10-40 to 20-50...

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Posted by Andy C <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Andy+C' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 9, 2024, 10:38 am, in reply to "Thank goodness for you tube"

I was surprised to find that the Morini does not have an oil filter.

It just has a a gauze "strainer" in the bottom of the crankcase.

Oil capacity is 2.5 Litres / change every 4000 Km / 2400 miles.

Probably end up doing it annually which will probably be about 1500 miles.

Who needs a signature anyway......

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Posted by MadMike <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=MadMike' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 9, 2024, 1:54 pm, in reply to "Re: Thank goodness for you tube"

Interesting comment Andy. British bikes for decades had a mesh "strainer" in the sump for the oil scaveng system and a "strainer" in the oil tank for the supply system. These worked perfectly by preventing any metal being scavenged and if that did not work then a second filtering process occurred in the tank.

External filters were fitted to a few bikes in the '70's but not all. The original two "strainer" filtration coped with Monograde oils, Multigrade oils and even racing grade Vegetable (Castor) based oils. Simple to make, simple to install during the build and simple to maintain. Then the Japaneesy bods made it all relatively complex.

Other opinions may be available but this one is always correct.

Re: Thank goodness for you tube

Posted by Andy C <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Andy+C' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 9, 2024, 7:53 pm, in reply to "Re: Thank goodness for you tube"

I guess most of us are used to having filters these days that are disposable, that was what I was expecting on the Morini.

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