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Wing Sprint car racing is Dead in ABQ!

Posted by Joe S on September 7, 2014, 8:59 am

I feel real bad for Chuck Jackson, showing up every week to race with 2-3 other cars every show! Last night had just 2 cars, Chuck ended up rolling the car with Minimal damage, but when you can't get more than 4 cars all season? DOA!!!!

Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?

Posted by jamesh on September 8, 2014, 12:29 am, in reply to "Wing Sprint car racing is Dead in ABQ!"

Hey Joe,
WHY do you say something like this??
Are YOU part of the solution or part of the problem??

The majority of Fans Love seeing a lot of sprint cars on the track. I hope and pray Chuck is healthy after his tumble and that more race cars in ALL classes sling some more dirt at Motiva Speedway.

Have A Great Day!
God Bless Everybody

Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?

Posted by Joe S on September 8, 2014, 7:49 am, in reply to "Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?"

Have you been to a race this year James? I have been almost every week, I'd say Im supporting Motiva more than you. And yes I love Sprint cars, when there is a show! 3-4 cars isn't a show, sorry!

Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?

Posted by jamesh on September 8, 2014, 8:10 am, in reply to "Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?"

Good Morning Joe!
I'm working in Oregon at the moment.
But it is refreshing to read that you Love something...
Have A Great Day!
God Bless Everybody

James Hodgdon

Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?

Posted by Joe S on September 8, 2014, 10:36 am, in reply to "Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?"

I have going to dirt track races since '67, I would have decided a long time ago if I didn't like it. Don't you think? On the other hand, I remember when ABQ had good local racing...

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Posted by gguinn on September 10, 2014, 9:28 am, in reply to "Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?"

Joe, Motiva wouldn't allow Late Models to have a race or to join the program for a few races because they can't muster more than six cars and six cars is not a race, no attempt has been made by the track to try either, Late model drivers were trying to put this together. Bottom line if a certain promoter (who still has a big NAPA Speedway sign is their front yard curb side of Hwy 47) wasn't backed by a winged sprint driver, I don't think we would be seeing either of them at the track on a regular basis. Funny how that works...

Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?

Posted by Joe S on September 11, 2014, 7:32 am, in reply to "Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?"

Gary, depending on when this new track in Los Lunas opens up, things will change for everybody!

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Posted by mychal on September 11, 2014, 8:48 am, in reply to "Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?"

If I had dollar for every time I've heard "just wait til"(fill in the blank).
...I'd be rolling a new stacker trailer&toterhome.
Grass is always greener over the septic tank.
I admire Chuck for his perseverance & determination in trying to get the 305 deal going...he's invested a ton of money & time into it.
Which is more than the armchair quarterbacks posting on here have done to help keep racing alive in Abq.
If the new track in Los Lunas ever comes to fruition...be prepared to see a whole lotta cheesy polyester purple & yellow imca uniforms in the pits.
It's gonna cost a lot of racers a lot of money to convert to imca.
I'd push my car off a cliff before I joined that stupid ass organization.
Fegan ain't easy to deal with...I know that firsthand, but he's trying and Motiva's what we got at the moment, last 3/4 shows the tracks been velcro sticky & hammer down fast . I've had a blast...and from the feedback that I've gotten, the racing been damn good.
I love racing, so I'm gonna continue to support the joynt.
Hopefully people continue to support our local dirt track.
Cuz, it's all we got.
I'd hate see racing die in this town.
Wish all the energy expounded on this message board would go towards helping grow the sport.
Instead of constantly tearing it down...

Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?

Posted by Joe S on September 12, 2014, 7:32 am, in reply to "Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?"

Mychal, how you associated anything I posted with the Modified classes is beyond me! Frankly if it wasn't for the NMMRA Non-wing sprints and the X-Mods, Motiva would go the way of the Asphalt track!

Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?

Posted by gguinn on September 11, 2014, 4:29 pm, in reply to "Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?"

I agree and disagree, Yes, IMCA sucks; Yes, Fegan is not easy to deal with; Yes, I too will not convert to IMCA to race locally or anywhere for that matter. However I agree with Joe, the wing deal doesn't look like its going to happen, just not any real interest on a consistent basis. Bless Chuck for everything he has done and surely will continue too, but I just don't see any growth here. Likewise Late Models guys were trying to put together a race and were shot down because of "low" car count. To me its a joke, how can you say 2-4 cars is a race but 6-8 isn't? That's the hypocrisy here and that is a problem that will likely keep more drivers away. I truly hope for nothing but the best for ABQ racing, but this is not for me anymore than IMCA is, and that's not a bash to the drivers that drive in either, it is a reflection of those running the system.

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Posted by Richard Johnson on September 11, 2014, 4:03 pm, in reply to "Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?"

Nice job !

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Posted by alh on September 12, 2014, 7:37 am, in reply to "Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?"

Car count for an existing class is always volatile, many one week, just a few the next.
Growing a class is similar in nature.
Knowing that there will only be 6-8 cars and then making a decision whether or not to run them is a calculated business decision.
The only hypocrisy here is that you three do not run a track or business, never have, and continue to act like you should.
And please don't try and tell me about what you think you know because you have not been there and therefore simply cannot.

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Posted by mychal on September 14, 2014, 3:41 pm, in reply to "Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?"

Slight nit..
Quote "car counts for an existing class is always volatile"quote.
Somewhat of a misnomer.
Nitroglycerin=volatile.(adj.)
Situation in the middle east=volatile.(adj.)
Car counts=fluctuate (n).

Carry on.

Please don't try and tell me what you think you know

Posted by alh on September 14, 2014, 4:27 pm, in reply to "Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?"

This is why you really should not try and act intelligent, or try and teach others Mychal.
volatile (adjective)or
volatile (noun)
1 volatile /ˈvɑːlətəl/ Brit /ˈvɒləˌtajəl/  adjective
Learner's definition of VOLATILE

[more volatile; most volatile]
1a:likely to change in a very sudden or extreme way
◾The stock market can be very volatile.
1b:having or showing extreme or sudden changes of emotion
◾She is a volatile woman.
◾He has a very volatile temper. [=he gets angry very suddenly and violent.
Learner's definition of VOLATILE as it pertains to Mychal:
A chemical or compound that changes into a gas easily

Swing and a miss...

Posted by mychal on September 14, 2014, 10:06 pm, in reply to " Please don't try and tell me what you think you know"

Settle down there...princess.
You're the one who chose to up the ante by insinuating..hypocrisy.
I responded.
The fact that you don't like what I post...is your problem.
Not mine.
Tell you what...
Since you feign, omnipotencecy.
Why not post your accomplishments as to what aspects of(racing related) promotional endeavors you've accomplished...?

Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?

Posted by Curtis on September 12, 2014, 11:23 pm, in reply to "Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?"

So there!

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Posted by Don on September 8, 2014, 6:41 am, in reply to "Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?"

I think it just shows how hard it is to develop another class. You either get existing racers to switch classes or bring new blood to the sport. Both difficult tasks.

DK

Hell were just getting started

Posted by chuckj on September 8, 2014, 7:28 am, in reply to "Re: Are you seriously posting this Joe!?"

Folks if you want something to work you just bust ass and keep trying. Works for all successful endeavors I just hope the folks who gave signs that they would be running sometime this year make it out soon and that the track sticks with us in the future... PS after a tough start to the year the race track has been dust free tons smoother and real racey, I'll be contacting southern boys to come up for next weekend and the Amarillo car that was here loved it so we may get some from over there next week too.... When we do get 10-15 cars it will be a very entertaining show.

Chuck, Are you trying to do a RaceSaver type class?

Posted by Don on September 9, 2014, 12:14 pm, in reply to "Hell were just getting started"

http://www.racesaver.com/

Seems like an open-wheel x-mod concept. With X-Mods being the dominant class here week in and week out the RaceSaver concept seems like a great idea.

DK

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