Tackle Tactics is selling them, and it might be people into competition casting buying them. I'm wondering about getting one for surfcasting but worried about how they cope with saltwater - they are made for carp fishing. (Carp fishing must be very popular - there are lots of reels made for it.) There aren't many good quality long cast threadline reels on the market in NZ - not ones without some gimmick you don't want, but they're around overseas.