Gary, Kelvin may be a very good man and he may go a long way in politics. However, as he is neither on the council or a member of the iwi who now have charge of the beaches I can't see him making any difference.

As already mentioned, I don't fish the far north beaches so it makes no difference to me if they charge or not. On the other hand, to you guys who do visit that area regularly, history is not exactly in your favour. Should regulations come into effect that impact on your access then don't come complaining on this site.

I could suggest the NZACA association make their feelings known very early in the piece, but again that could be a little simplistic.

God I wish I had your faith and in a politician. I find that akin to believing in promised tax cuts and a projected trade surplus.

Flying pigs anyone?