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Leader breaking strain

Posted by ABU Man on 24/9/2012, 3:28 pm

Hi fisho's,

In the depth of my old brain, I think I have seen somewhere how to calculate the force on the leader during casting. I believe it is calculated on a formula based on the weight of the sinker being used. Does anyone on her know what the formula is.

Cheers

Re: Leader breaking strain

Posted by MarkgHB on 24/9/2012, 7:30 pm, in reply to "Leader breaking strain"

Do you mean how do you calculate what breaking strain you should use for your leader? If so I use, for every ounce of sinker weight use 10lb breaking strain. eg 6oz=60lb. Sounds like your thinking of something different though?

Re: Leader breaking strain

Posted by Phill on 24/9/2012, 7:39 pm, in reply to "Re: Leader breaking strain"
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That's the rule of thumb I have always used . There is to many variables to my mind to get an absolute formulae . You would have to mechanize the casts to get repeatablity. I tend to to the safer side of life.
That was no help at all was it.

Re: Leader breaking strain

Posted by ABU Man on 26/9/2012, 1:50 pm, in reply to "Re: Leader breaking strain"

You got it, my question wasn't well worded but you came up with the answer I was looking for. Ta.

Re: Leader breaking strain

Posted by NP HB on 26/9/2012, 8:13 pm, in reply to "Re: Leader breaking strain"

rely? you guys go as heavy as 60lbs for a shock leader? big joining knot? or do you use a taperd leader? I have never used heaver then 30lbs casting a 5oz.

Re: Leader breaking strain

Posted by Phill on 26/9/2012, 8:50 pm, in reply to "Re: Leader breaking strain"
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I use 15-50lb and 18-70lb tapers most of the time small knot super reliable on clean beaches and 50 or 60lb around rough stuff. I cast 125gm and 150gm most of the time.

Re: Leader breaking strain

Posted by NP HB on 26/9/2012, 9:39 pm, in reply to "Re: Leader breaking strain"

i am kean to give the taperd leader ago, and to give a 6oz a flick, as i have never cast anymore then a 5. im sure my rod will handle the exrta weight.

Re: Leader breaking strain

Posted by Phill on 26/9/2012, 9:52 pm, in reply to "Re: Leader breaking strain"
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What's the rod,

Re: Leader breaking strain

Posted by NP HB on 26/9/2012, 10:09 pm, in reply to "Re: Leader breaking strain"

um, im fishing a three piece 14,3 red back rod.it has a casting weight of 155g by the looks of it.

Re: Leader breaking strain

Posted by Phill on 26/9/2012, 10:13 pm, in reply to "Re: Leader breaking strain"
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Do you want to cast further with the 6oz or do you just want to hold the bottom better.

Re: Leader breaking strain

Posted by Chad on 26/9/2012, 10:18 pm, in reply to "Re: Leader breaking strain"

Only reel reason to go to a 6 ounce would be in strong current or heavy onshore winds....

And yeah 30lb is all that is needed, I don't have bust offs with it.

I must admit though, the tappered leaders are very nice to use.

Wairoa
Hawkesbay

Take Nothing For Granted

Re: Leader breaking strain

Posted by NP HB on 26/9/2012, 10:32 pm, in reply to "Re: Leader breaking strain"

i have at times struggeld to hold my sinker in stronger current onshore winds while fishing at whakaki. im not to botherd about casting it further, but if i can get a little more distance and hold a sinker a little better at times then im quessing shifting to 6oz will do it? but does that mean i will need a heaver shock leader or will 30lb still cope?

Re: Leader breaking strain

Posted by Chad on 27/9/2012, 3:22 am, in reply to "Re: Leader breaking strain"

A heavier sinker won't get you any further in distance unless you are casting into a headwind. What kind of sinker are you using? As long as it has good strong long wires, there should be little issues. The down side to extra weight on the sinker, means those tentative small snapper bites usually shy off along there.

I would move to 40 LB on a 6 ounce..... The gun casters tell ya 10lb an ounce, but your not casting over grass.......never snapped the 30LB leaders, and the rod gets a fair thump.

Wairoa
Hawkesbay

Take Nothing For Granted

Re: Leader breaking strain

Posted by Jock on 27/9/2012, 6:40 am, in reply to "Re: Leader breaking strain"

Come to Panias casting day,7 October and i will show you the tricks of fishing strong current and any thing else you want to know.

Re: Leader breaking strain

Posted by NP HB on 27/9/2012, 7:54 pm, in reply to "Re: Leader breaking strain"

I use boss 5oz sinkers, just on the rear occasion they have seemed to slip and not hold anchor, but i gotta say 98% of the time they are bloody good. i have never been to fussed on casting a line unless theres a bait on it! but i do plan to come along to a couple casting days this year, as i hope to fish the nationals, and i believe casting is part of it, so a few tips might be a good thanx! you will know who i am, apparently im the guy that cast cack handed and upside down! the fish dont seem to mind it thu!

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